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The California Crisis No One Wants to Talk About — Until Now

Steve Hilton and George Harmer on the Energy News Beat podcast

Steve Hilton and George Harmer on the Energy News Beat podcast

This was an emotional podcast to film as we filmed the day after Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Steve was Charlie’s friend, and he had helped him out tremendously.

In this episode of Energy Newsbeat – Conversations in Energy, Stu Turley is joined by George Harmer (Californians for Energy Science) and special guest Steve Hilton, who shares why he’s running for Governor of California. The conversation honors the late Charlie Kirk and dives deep into California’s energy crisis—highlighting how failed policies, refinery shutdowns, and anti-oil agendas are hurting working families while empowering foreign adversaries.

Steve outlines practical, pro-energy solutions to restore California’s prosperity, from doubling oil & gas production to dismantling net-zero mandates. If you’re concerned about rising gas prices, unreliable electricity, and regulatory overreach, this episode is a must-listen.

 

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Highlights of the Podcast

00:00 – Intro

00:52 – Remembering Charlie Kirk

04:41 – Charlie’s Legacy & Turning Point USA

06:57 – California’s Crisis & Policy Failures

09:48 – Steve Hilton’s Energy Policy Vision

16:36 – Doubling California’s Oil & Gas

17:16 – $10 Gas & Refinery Closures

19:55 – Newsom’s Cronyism & Carbon Taxes

22:35 – The Myth of Net-Zero Power Goals

25:23 – Faulty Data & CARB Manipulation

28:30 – Electric Vehicle Elitism & Farm Equipment

30:46 – How to Support Steve Hilton’s Campaign

32:13 – Final Words & Call to Action

You need to go to SteveHiltonForGovernor.com and donate if you can. He has to be our next Governor for California. As it stands now, California is an absolute train wreck, and he is the right man for the job.

President Trump and his team cannot achieve Global Energy Dominance with Gavin Newsom’s Energy policies, and after reading Steve’s book and interviewing him for my podcast, he has a plan.

I believe in Steve, and as long as President Trump can get the voting issues fixed in California, Steve will be the next Governor.

Thank you, Steve and George, for stopping by the Energy News Beat Podcast. I really appreciate you both, and we need you both more now than ever.

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Full Transcript:

Stuart Turley [00:00:07] Hello everybody. Welcome to the Energy Newsbeat podcast. My name’s Stu Turley, president of the Sandstone Group. Today is not just a really tough day. It is a day that I’ve got a special guest. I’ve Got two special guests. I got George Harmer. He’s with the Californians for Energy Science Group. And he is a dear friend of the show also with Mike Umbro. And Mike Umbra is such a dear friends. Thank you, George, for stopping by today. Oh, we’ve got a crisis on our hands and we’ve got a man who I’ve been wanting to meet for quite a while. Steve Hilton for governor. Steve is one of my heroes. He’s got a great book out and it is worth the read. You’ve got to plan for California. Thank you for stopping by the podcast today.

 

George Harmer [00:00:53] It’s a it’s a joy and an honor to be with you. I’ve been looking forward to it for a while. So thank you

 

Stuart Turley [00:00:58] I know that we need to address this. We’re today is the day after Charlie’s assassination and you were a dear friend. Could you at least tell us a little bit about that?

 

Steve Hilton for Governor – California [00:01:09] Yeah, so I met Charlie first when he was one of the very first guests on my show, the next revolution on Fox News. Many people watching may have seen that and then he became a regular and we got to know each other because he was brilliant. He was always so smart and well informed and always had such an interesting way of talking about issues. He’s an incredibly, incredibly impressive, intelligent man and then I got to know him and we’d go out after the show and became friends and he’s just a beautiful person, just the most loyal, generous, amazing friend anyone can have. And I just wanted to also say in connection to our conversation today, he had a, he is what he used to say all the time. He loved California. He said, I have a heart for California. And he hated to see what the left have done to our beautiful state. He hated it. And he was right behind me. One of the first people I spoke to about running for governor was Charlie. And he said, right, fantastic. Let’s do it. I mean, that’s what he was always like. He was just a man of action. And we went just over a year ago, spent the day with him. In Phoenix and some of his team and, you know, planning, you know, the campaign, what he would do, how he’d get involved. He was giving me advice, you just, he was all in. And I remember that day at one point, I said, we just, I remember him saying to me, I’ll never forget what you did for me. And I just thought, I didn’t do anything for you. You’re an absolute giant, a hero, but that’s who he was. He was just so warm and loving. And I mean, there’s so many stories, you know, we worked together on right at the beginning of the pandemic. He and I were almost the only people actually very early on really at the beginning speaking out against the lockdowns and all that insanity And again, he wanted to do something about it So, you know we spoke that week and my show was on a sunday night He saw me say something on the sunday said called me on the monday and he said right, let’s do something It was during the right at the begining there was the 15 minutes to 15 Or was it 15 days to slow the spread and um, he said we’ve got to stop this And so we put together, you know, we worked on it together and we persuaded the president and and unfortunately the rest of the administration didn’t come along. And it’s just an example of how he would just be constantly doing, acting, fighting. Let’s do let’s do it. You know, he would invite me to his, you know, his equivalent of shareholder meetings, you don’t have presentations as it were the people who supported Turning Point financially. So I saw over the years the growth of the organization. This is one thing I really want to say, and I’m saying it at every opportunity. Because I hear this term used to describe Charlie in all the beautiful tributes, and it’s wonderful to see them, but they often use the term conservative commentator or conservative activist or something like that. Of course he was that. He was so much more than that. You know, someone like myself who started and run businesses on both sides of the Atlantic, you know, one of the things I most admire about Charlie is his entrepreneurial. Genius, he built from nothing an amazing organization like an incredible impactful big organization Professionally run serious, you know in in actually a very short space of time But he built that as an entrepreneur and so that’s very I mean, he’s not he’s a builder He’s not just a commentator. And then the final thing I’ll just say is that you know, he just there was one time I really so when I think about our times together the one I really remember was It’s a weird one actually, but about a year or so ago, he was coming to help. We had some big events in LA and he lost his voice just a couple of days before we literally couldn’t speak and he couldn’t ask me when he phoned and said, look, Charlie can’t speak. He doesn’t want to let people down. Doesn’t want a council of the events. Could you speak for him? Could you come and speak for them? I said, of course, you know, and, and.

 

Stuart Turley [00:04:41] So you were a Twilioquist dummy? Well, it was amazing.

 

Steve Hilton for Governor – California [00:04:43] Well it was amazing. The thing I remember is, you know, it was very funny watching him, you know, because imagine Charlie Kirk without a voice, right? He was like furiously scribbling in a pad or notepad or maybe it was one of those little mini whiteboards, you know, when he wanted to say something. But also the bit I loved was part of this one event, one of the events was a book signing and we sat together at the table and the people were coming in line and it was just so special to be there. And I was joking, I was jokingly pretending to be Charlie and he was just smiling. But the thing that was so special about that was just to see his magic, you know, the effect he had on people, just what he meant to people. You could see it in the eyes of all the people. And, you know I looked to my left and I just can see it right now, just the light in his eyes and his smile, just very special. Thank you.

 

Stuart Turley [00:05:33] Sorry. That, that, that means an awful lot. And when you sit back and think we are going to be facing some tough times as we go through this and we know that they will find and get, and get to this. California is facing one of the biggest battles of its life and is California’s failure and in your book, California failure used to be one of the greatest places on the planet. Yeah. And, and we are now facing. A national crisis because of Gavin Newsom’s energy policies. Yes. And, and George, give us a little bit of feedback on, on what you’ve got going on on there. And I want to then get Steve back in on this because his book on what he needs to do is very critical. And I love the way that you had this one phrase in here, there are practical solutions, for example, deregulate housing development permits. Hold criminals accountable for their behavior and ensure certainty of prosecution and punishment for crime. Very applicable today and a disastrous housing policies instead give homeless people safe housing, inexpensive focus on education, not ideology, build nuclear power plants and develop abundant energy reserves. Your book was phenomenal. Thank you. Thank you

 

George Harmer [00:06:57] I want to start off by saying that somebody told me a long time ago, I’ve been in California my entire life. I’ve lived in Kern County and in Taft, California my entire life. Like many folks that have moved away, I always decided that if there’s a problem and you want to talk about the problem, you’re part of the problem. Now if there is a problem and you come up with a solution, now you’re a problem solver. And what I’ve noticed with Steve and looking at Kern County, Steve is the guy that asked the questions. And what struck me very predominantly was Steve is one of those guys that you look at, and I’ve heard it say, people don’t want to know how much you know, they want to know how you care. So being able to talk to Steve and him getting to the root of our problems here in Kern County whether it’s the oil industry, it’s ag industry, issues with water, the same issue that folks seen in the Palisade fires, that water was unavailable. Steve is constantly out there trying to figure out, and I found how much Steve cares about California in Kern County and my little city of Taft. I’m 54 years old. I’ve been in the oil industry since right out of high school. I didn’t go to college. So that career path that I’ve seen, going into an industry that enabled me to raise two wonderful kids. I have three grandchildren now. My son works with me in the business, my mom worked in the business. So looking at those failures that I’ve seen over the last 30 years as I’ve been in the industry is essentially been attacked on an industry that’s been good for the state. Kern County was one of the leading producing counties in the nation for oil and gas. California, we do it better than any other state, but yet these policies, what it’s done is it shifted billions and billions of dollars to countries like China, countries like Russia. China has one of the largest plays in Central America. And they’ve done that by loaning money to these countries. And then they do the cash call. Well, where’s our money? Well, we don’t have your money. Well, then they embed themselves in the oil reserves there in Central American. They’re one of largest suppliers to California. So what we’ve…

 

Stuart Turley [00:09:11] 70% from Ecuador and ruining the rainforest.

 

George Harmer [00:09:14] And ruining the rainforest. And then we’re not talking, you know, Iran, their play in Iraq. They share a border. They reach over and go, hey, we’re going to shut down production. You increase production, but make sure we get our money. Russia has a big play in Iran as well. So essentially what the what California has been happening and talking with Steve, Steve has asked those questions. What do we do to flip the script? How do we care? So Steve, you can talk more about your policies and what you think we need to change for California.

 

Steve Hilton for Governor – California [00:09:48] Yeah, I mean, look, it’s infuriating what they’ve done, these ideologues, because as I often say, in every area of policy, California is a total disaster. That’s why the book’s called Caliphalia and the subtitle is reversing the ruin of America’s worst-run state. And California is unquestionably the worst- run state in America. We have the worst outcomes on everything that matters. I mean it really is, and it’s not even that we’re in the of the pack compared to other states or whatever. We literally have… Right now, as we’re speaking today, the highest taxes in America, the highest rate of unemployment, the highest rate of poverty, the highest cost for gas, electricity, mainland U.S. The wires are a bit higher on that. Worst business climate, 10 years in a row, worst results on third grade reading, which is the best determinant of students’ future outcomes. Work the largest homeless population by far we have. Around 11% of the US population, nearly 50% of the US homeless population, on and on it goes, on everything, it’s a total disaster. The thing about energy policy is that, and sorry, and the reason that everything is such a disaster is this terrible combination of ideology and incompetence. They don’t know what they’re doing, they’re completely, they’re machine politicians in charge who don’t understand about follow through and whatever, they don’t have a business mindset. Most of my career, I’ve worked in business. I’ve started and run companies, as I mentioned in relation to Charlie. I approach things from a business point of view. These people in charge are just machine politicians. All they care about is managing the political constituencies that don’t care about or even understand how to prioritize real world outcomes. So you’ve got incompetence, but you also have ideology. And in many of these other areas, you can see that at least they’re pursuing an ideology. It may be completely wrong. And in some cases obscene, for example, biological boys and girls sports, that whole thing. But it’s doing what they want, wrong as it is. The most outrageous and infuriating thing about their energy policy is it’s not even delivering its own objectives. So if you just look at what’s going on with their policy on fossil fuels, the crushing of our domestic oil and gas industry, you know, not that long ago. Most of the oil and gas that we consumed in California was produced in California. Now mostly it isn’t and we’re importing it and we are shipping it in on giant supertankers from halfway around the world, yes Ecuador but also I believe right now the single number one provider of California oil is Iraq. So it’s coming a long way on these giant super tankers that are spewing out carbon emissions because they run on bunker fuel which is the most polluting form of transportation. On the planet. So they are increasing carbon emissions. In the name of climate change, I’ve been on the oil fields in Kern County, I have literally seen the pipelines that we could be sending the oil from, from there, from the oil field to the refinery on the coast, but instead of that. There’s nothing around there, is there, Steve? It’s ridiculous. The whole thing is insane. So it doesn’t even meet its own objectives. There’s some incredible data, for example, the total proportion of California’s energy when your transportation or the electricity area add it all up. That comes from fossil fuels is 80%. You look at the rest of the US that haven’t had this insane climate extremism, 81%. So what’s it all been for? The massive increases in gas prices that are crushing every working family in California. It’s not even achieving its own objectives. So the whole thing has to be swept away. So let me just get to how we’re gonna do that, which is very simple. We have to just dismantle this whole. Destructive edifice of climate ideology and climate elitism because it’s really the working people who pay the price for this vanity of the elites who think that they’re saving the planet. When they’re making zero difference to global temperatures or global climate, the only outcome is these people are paying more for everything as a result of this. And everything becomes impossible to do because of this climate stuff. Let’s just look at the the actual, you know drive it the the underpinning thing of all of this is the target that they’ve set of net zero by 2045. Basically everything flows from that because it’s all driven towards that and they have interim target which is 60% non-decarbonized energy generation by 2030. And so that’s what’s pushing all this. And the first step is dismantling all of that, just getting rid of that. And then you get into the specific details. And again, this is what’s so important to me about this job, is that it’s not… Obviously, you have to win the election, but once you’ve won the election you need to know exactly what you’re doing to make things better. That’s why George and his team and everyone there has been so helpful to me to understand precisely what I need to do. And actually, the really good news about this particular area of policy is that compared to so many of the others, it’s actually really amenable to direct action by the governor and the executive branch to solve the problem. Because of course, you know, we can talk about how I’m planning to win the election. And I’ve always said it’s going to be difficult, but it’s not impossible. But you will in all likelihood have a super majority in the legislature. So you can’t just pass legislation. But what you can do is run the executive branch. So to get very precise about the oil and gas industry, the method that Gavin Newsom and his cronies have been using to shut down the industry piece by piece is to refuse to issue permits. The maintenance of existing wells for expanding existing wells, for drilling new wells. I mean, I’ve seen all this in action. I mean I’ve see the wells that are there are just not operating because they won’t give a permit just to do routine maintenance or the expansion of a well where you’ve basically got the well, I mean you know all this, but what’s it called George? Side tracking, where you can just get something that’s producing five barrels a day up to a hundred, you know, without drilling a new one. No permits issued for that. I’ve seeing those, what do you call it? Pads, the concrete pads ready to go for drilling. And you are in the middle of an existing field. Like you said, this isn’t like in the middle of Yosemite. This is like a current existing oil field with all the infrastructure there, everything ready to go and they won’t give you a permit. But the good news is the agency that does that whole nonsense off-gem. Is in the control of the governor you appoint people to it and you can give them instructions to issue permits just as Gavin Newsom has given them instructions to not issue permits so the final point I’d make is that I’ve had I’ve asked this question and you know you get slightly different answers but this is my goal not 23rd, zero by 2045 my goal if we push forward aggressively as aggressively as possible is to double California oil and gas production every two years when I’m governor.

 

Stuart Turley [00:16:37] Wow, that’s cool. How this is a, a huge issue because you have two refineries about to close in California. That’s going to be 20%. And as I interviewed Mike Umbro, he was pointing out saying, Hey, it’s going to start at $8 and go up from there to $10 gasoline and everything else. And I love Mike Umbreau. I love everything that you and George do. You guys are rock stars. But that not stopping and then you see the cronyism of what a governor new some is trying to do by giving them a feed is maybe try to stay open.

 

Steve Hilton for Governor – California [00:17:17] Yes. Well, this is the thing. So, again, let’s just go into the details, right, why are we in this situation? So, people talk about the gas tax, and yes, it’s true, we have the highest gas tax in the country, but that’s not the main driver, actually. When you look at the components of the fact, you know, what is it, we’re roughly in a five dollar gas right now, some places six, and you know like way above what is anywhere else, including Hawaii, right? In the middle of the Pacific Ocean, and we have plenty for an abundant oil and gas reserves, and yet our gas prices are higher than Hawaii. Absolutely. Unforgivable and the the the components of it and number one the something called the low carbon fuel standard Which is forcing them to blend in all this ethanol from iron or reticulous Then you have the cap and trade program which Gavin Newsom had just renewed just done a deal Behind closed doors to renew it beyond 2030 So that needs to I mean that is just basically a tax increase and you’ve got so much swampy corrupt Behavior and that with when they’ve created this totally artificial bogus and they call it a market It’s not a market. It’s all a scam and you’ve got everyone’s snouts in their trough because they create this artificial thing of Credits that you can get to pollute and it’s all classic bureaucratic boondoggle But that but the basic point is it’s a tax on anyone who produces a large volume uses carbon So you got low carbon fuel standard cap and trade the refinery regulations and the oil reg You know the summer blend winter blend the different types of oil gas different types. Yeah totally redundant That’s all coming from the 1970s when you had incredibly inefficient cars and they were worried about smog. Of course we don’t want smog, but you’re not going to get smog because modern cars are really efficient. So this is a pointless additional burden on refiners and you’ve got a whole bunch of other refinery regulations as well. And so you’ve gotta get the, and then of course the, the fact of domestic production being halted, so you’re shipping it in now with as George touched on now we’re not just shipping in crude, but refined gasoline. And now you find yourself in the ludicrous situation, where some of that is coming from India and Turkey. And guess where they’re getting it from? Russia. So Gavin Newsom, all their lectures on Ukraine and Putin, whatever. Now indirectly, thanks to this insane energy policy, California, Gavin Newsoms California is indirectly financing Putin’s war machine. I mean, it’s so ridiculous. All of it has to go, all of it. I can’t, you know, we cannot compromise with any of it because it’s insane. It doesn’t meet its own objectives, the only actual outcome in the real world is to crush these great industries, taft as you say where I’ve been and Kern County more broadly, and that’s one of the reasons we have the highest rate of poverty in the country, is because it makes everything so expensive.

 

Stuart Turley [00:19:55] You, you, I, I would love to hug you through a zoom hug right now, because I can’t wait to hug, you are such a breath of fresh air, George, give the man a hug. Next time you see him for me, please, or I’m getting on a plane. I’ve got to hug. You, this is absolutely crazy. And when we sit that the, the Russian oil that was shipped to India, it was refined into gasoline and diesel. Those tankers were tracked. And I was writing stories on it and I’m sitting here going, this is nuts. There is absolutely no reason for Californians to be funding. We used to buy all the oil from Alaska. Yes. My granddad discovered the Alaskan North slope. There is. Absolutely no reason. For us not to be using Alaskans oil or Kern County oil. This is ridiculous.

 

Steve Hilton for Governor – California [00:20:53] I mean, I think at the peak, George, am I right in saying that the peak? You know, obviously I’m going to be banging the drum for California. So I want to maximize California production in a simple way. I put it is as long as we are using oil and gas in California, let’s use Californian oil and guess there’s a whole aspect of it that I just want to quickly mention, which is power generation. So you have this insane situation now where we have, as I mentioned, They’ve doubled. Electricity bills in the last 10 years are an average electricity bill in California, double the national average, highest anywhere in the mainland USA, only Hawaii is higher. And that’s because of this, again, driven by the ridiculous net zero target, they’ve been pushing all electricity generation to wind and solar, which is obviously unreliable, intermittent for all the reasons that are obvious. And that means that our built infrastructure for gas-fired… Power stations right we’ve got perfectly good gas-fired power stations that are running as basically now as backup for wind and solar they’re running about 10 to 15 percent of capacity it’s just insane i want to give you a really important number okay which is that their target in 2045 the their net zero thing when they project this is the the the carb the california air resources port they’re projecting how much electricity we will need as a state You know, where they want to electrify everything and AI and all the rest of it’s 500,000 gigawatt hours, I believe is the measure, right? That’s their project, that’s their number if and and and their their way of getting there is literally impossible. They’re talking about solar and wind as the as getting there. And unless you get literally had windmills like literally every inch of the California coast, which is impossible. It’s a plaster half the, you know,

 

Stuart Turley [00:22:35] They’re saying five, Steve, are you saying there was, they’re saying they need 500 gigawatts in California. 500,000. 500,00.

 

Steve Hilton for Governor – California [00:22:45] That’s the ma- I think I’m getting that right.

 

Stuart Turley [00:22:47] Texas needs 92, but they have 180 gigawatts because they have to have so much solar and wind.

 

Steve Hilton for Governor – California [00:22:55] Yeah, but this is for 2045, and it’s to take account of growth in electrification and AI data centers, all that stuff. So that’s their number, okay? And in order to hit that number, they’re doing this insane, you know, stuff like the most ludicrous is offshore wind. They want offshore wind in a way that’s never been done in the history of the world. Because they want them far offshore, I think it’s about 20 miles offshore. The ocean is very deep there, so you can’t put them in the ocean bed as you do elsewhere. So they’re going to be floating, that’s the plan. Floating wind turbines. In order to get the wind properly, they’re very high. They’re a thousand feet. So you’re going have literally, it’s like the height of the Eiffel Tower, floating in the oceans. I mean, it’s just complete insanity, whereas… If you turn, this is the number I wanted to get to. Remember their target, 500,000? If you turned up the current, not even building new, everyone says, oh, gas-fired power generation is, well, it takes longer now to get the turbines built than a solar farm and whatever. It’s very expensive. No, it’s not. If you just turned up the dial on the current installed fleet of gas-fire power stations to maximum, you could meet that, just from that, would get you 300,000. From what we have today, let alone anything new, these people are just insane.

 

George Harmer [00:24:21] You know, Steve, you, you talked about CARB a minute ago and all the policies that have been related to Kern County and shutting down the industry here in Kern County. CARB has 11 stationary monitors around the county. 11. How many of those do you think are within a quarter mile of an active producing oil field? Zero. Also that the data that they have and the devices that they’re using are antiquated, they’re outdated. So there’s glitches in the system. I look at their website all the time. Look at the spikes that are on there. They’re not taken into account. You know, some of them are right by the 99 freeway. So you have tire wear or tire erode, you know, from the tires breaking down, brake dust, the heavy metals, all of these things, they’re trying to go back and say it’s from producing oil fields in the count. So when you go back, and look at that car only having 11 monitors, they are the ones that are actually out there setting the standard to shut down an industry when they don’t even understand the data that they have or plug in.

 

Steve Hilton for Governor – California [00:25:23] I just want to go back to something you mentioned earlier, which is on the bribes and so on to keep it all going. This is where we’ve ended up, because they know, because I mean, yes, they’re ideologues, but they’re also politicians. They want to get elected. They know how painful this all is for regular Californians. They’re hearing it all the time from their constituents. So suddenly, from two years ago, it was like war on the fossil fuel, war on oil and gas. Price gouging you know these ridiculous bills that they were passing to attack the industry and of course there’s the the the thrust of their policy is still to shut down the industry but because they don’t what you know they they can see the the political pain that’s coming they’re now running around kind of getting begging The refiners to stay and doing all these deals and you’re getting was it the Energy Commission to figure something Gavin Newsom that ridiculous letter He wrote. Oh, well, it looks you know, please find a way to keep the refiners in California like what are you talking about the reason they’re leaving is your policies and they It’s just it’s so infuriating to me. These people are just then that they’re a joke But it’s a very painful joke because it’s costing us and and as I keep mentioning, you know Working-class Californians the people can afford at least you know Who’s driving their trucks two hours a day the end of each day to their work site because it’s so expensive to live near where? The work is it’s not you know Marin County climate warriors tapping away on their MacBook airs You know about how they’re saving the planet. It’s working-class Californians who are paying the price for this also the EV stuff I mean for goodness sake they go on and on about EVs if is if it’s the future Oh quarter of new vehicles at EVs Yes, what’s the last time I looked the proportion of vehicles on the roads of California that are electric is four percent Four so it’s just such an elitist thing this whole nonsense. What’s the other tractors? This is an amazing number where you have a regular tractor you mentioned ag george, you know A regular track i’m speaking to a tractor dealer He said you’re the basic tractor that people want to use on their farms, right? Well, I think he said 39 grand They they want now they’re trying to force everyone to have electric tractors three times the price Like up nearly 100 gram for the track for the same for the tractor Guess what it the battery lasts a third of the time like barely half the day So and they’re good and then they’re toxic batteries and then then you have to charge it But no one’s got there’s no charging infrastructure So they they they pay for you that to install 200 grams to install a charger and you’re fine So they pay and then and also you get discounts on the tractor to make it the same price. So They just throw so you’ve got a perfectly good tractor that farmers want and then you’ve got the government trying to force them to have something to have a product that is a third as effective and costs, you know, by the time you had everything up to like 10 times as much and taxpayer money going to it. That’s what all this cap and trade money goes to all this. They raise taxes on everyone to put in these climate slush funds that then go and pay for this nonsense that nobody wants in the first place. It’s so unbelievably

 

Stuart Turley [00:28:30] infuriating. We’ve got just a few more minutes here and I want to make sure that I’m worried about the elections. I, I know that there’s more and more coming out here. First, before we go, how do people give money for you to be, because this is critical. I’m sorry. I am a fan. I, you are a breath of fresh air. Please tell us how to give money so that we can get you elected.

 

Steve Hilton for Governor – California [00:28:58] Thank you. I really appreciate it. We do need money. Remember, they’ve got the unions, right? And it’s totally this corrupted Democrat industrial complex, this machine. So we do need to raise a lot of money. SteveHilton4Governor.com I mean, anything helps, but it’s a relatively high maximum donation of $39,200. So if anyone’s listening who can really, really wants to help me out, that’s where you want to go. But honestly, everything. But the point I want to make about the elections is this and and let’s just end on this note because I just this is What why I’m doing this I’m do things like I know that I can win It’s not going to be easy. It’s gonna be difficult But I know I it’s possible because there are enough Republican votes in California We saw that with President Trump last year I mean, I won’t go into all the math, but we’ve done the math and it’s very simple if everybody in California who voted for President Trump Last year votes for me next year then I will win with 200,000 votes to spare now There’s a big if there, because it’s the difference between a presidential year turnout and a midterm election for a statewide race. And so the crucial point in all of this is turnout. We’ve got to get our people out to vote. If everyone who voted for the president votes for me, then I’ll win. And so one really important thing just on election integrity to tell you about is that people right now, friends of mine, are working to qualify for the ballot and a voter ID initiative for 2026. And now it won’t be operational for that election, but if we can get it on the ballot, that’s going to be a huge motivator for Republican voters to turn out. So I’m optimistic that if we do everything right, a serious, well-funded campaign, voter ID on the ballots, we really can pull this off and restore California to where it should be, the glory of America.

 

Stuart Turley [00:30:46] We owe it to ourselves to get president Trump, George, me, and you on a podcast together. We have got to get that to happen. I love president Trump and I guarantee you that would make a heck of a podcast. So it would be amazing. We can make that happen.

 

Steve Hilton for Governor – California [00:31:04] Where he loves energy and he loves American energy. And I think that if we can bring California into the fold of unleashing American energy so that we can have true dominance, absolutely amazing for all of us in California, but for the whole nation.

 

George Harmer [00:31:16]  And stay real quick. I’ve seen Phil with him. Steve Hilton was a man that had a job. You didn’t have to run for governor, Steve, but it’s something that burned inside of you. The love of country, the love of state, and most importantly, what I’ve learned from you, Steve is the love people here in this state. So you didn’t to run governor, but it is people like you that sacrifice, having folks maybe say not so nice things about you, when you’re driving down the road or whatever else. So I applaud you, Steve, for saying, why not me? There’s a lot of things that people are charged with. Going out and doing something and they want to stand back because they’re afraid of the persecution, they’re are afraid of what people might think. But Steve, you’re a champion and to be able to say, why not me? Send me. So that’s why I say vote for Steve Hilton, because he’s a game changer. He loves California and he loves the people in California.

 

Steve Hilton for Governor – California [00:32:13] Thank you, George. I appreciate that.

 

Stuart Turley [00:32:15] And I hope I, I hope, I get to have another chance to visit with you because I got about 9,000 more conversations. Everybody go buy Steve’s book. And again, Steve, what was the website again?

 

Steve Hilton for Governor – California [00:32:26] SteveHiltonforGovernor.com

 

Stuart Turley [00:32:29] And with that, thank you for everybody for stopping by the energy news beat podcast, my name’s Stu Turley and I had two fantastic guests today.

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