One thing I have to say is that this was a fun podcast visiting with Alma Cook, about her song just released “5000 Candles” a true tribute to the oil field workers. A great music video and I originally saw her new release from the Energy Strong LinkedIn feed. I first saw the video on the Energy Strong LinkedIn feed, and not to mention we are a proud sponsor as well.
Women in energy are critical for the growth of the next generation in the oil and gas field. Alma is a great example of a planned work/life/family balance.
If you are an oil and gas or energy company that would like to license her song, please contact Alma on her LinkedIn channel here. It would be worth every dime you spend!
Alma, thank you for stopping by the ENB podcast, I had an absolute blast visiting with you.
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Connect with Alma on her LinkedIn channel here.
5000 Candles Official Video
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Video Transcription edited for grammar. We disavow any errors unless they make us look better or smarter.
Stuart Turley: [00:00:03] Hello, everybody. Today is a fabulous day. I am just really excited. My name is Stu Turley. I’m the president and CEO of the Sandstone Group and we’ve got a rock star on our show today. [00:00:16][12.8]
Stuart Turley: [00:00:17] I’m going to do the all share my screen here and it’s going to be just a second here. I think that we are going to have some fun. And then I’m going to introduce Alma in just a sec. And here we go. [00:00:32][14.6]
MUSIC INTERLUDE: [00:00:54] There’s a lot of things going in the mouth that don’t stay the night. It will come down to some other people running about that. Don’t take the time to assess you as the sum of us every night, but make it those do you like. Isn’t it nice that somebody in the presence of mine is bingo for you? Let there be light. [00:01:12][18.1]
Stuart Turley: [00:01:15] Tell you what, Alma, thank you. We have Alma Cook, and I’ve just been chit chatting with her for a few minutes. And welcome, Alma. We are so thrilled to have you on this podcast. [00:01:25][9.9]
Alma Cook: [00:01:26] Thank you so much, Stu. I’m really glad to be here. [00:01:28][2.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:01:29] There’s a couple of things. You are a girl from L.A., is that right? [00:01:33][3.8]
Alma Cook: [00:01:34] Well, I have kind of like, a circuitous journey, shall we say. So I’m from Wisconsin originally. Okay. School in Chicago. I was a music major for vocal performance, and then I ended up moving to L.A. for music and through some job loss and other life drama, I ended up going back and forth between Los Angeles and Williston, North Dakota. [00:01:53][19.1]
Alma Cook: [00:01:54] Ultimately, that balance fell more in the favor of Williston, and that’s now where I consider my home. I’m officially moving my stuff out of storage in L.A. in just a few weeks here now. So, yeah. [00:02:06][11.8]
Stuart Turley: [00:02:07] You’ve been up there and you’ve got your own company, your own oil and gas company. [00:02:11][4.1]
Alma Cook: [00:02:12] Well, I wouldn’t say that I have an oil and gas company in the sense that I’m a personal oil producer, that would be I would be a much wealthier woman if that were the case. [00:02:19][7.3]
Alma Cook: [00:02:20] But but as you know, Stuart, as I’m sure many of your listeners know, the oil and gas economy is made up of service providers who are often very small. You know, one person, companies, 20 person company, hundred person companies and the oil and gas operators, the BP is in the shell’s and the Exxon’s who actually own the asset,. [00:02:35][15.4]
Alma Cook: [00:02:36] But the service providers are the ones providing the service and I’m the one who helps mediate that. I’m kind of a marriage counselor between the service provider and the operator. [00:02:44][7.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:02:45] I’ve never heard anybody call a marriage counselor in the oil patch. So that one, you got to see that on your truck because in your video, your hardhat is at one. That is a very cool picture in the video that you’ve got your hard hat on. [00:03:01][15.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:03:02] What is cook do? What do you what do you do out there in the past besides being the you just go out there and you marry up everybody? [00:03:10][8.3]
Alma Cook: [00:03:12] Well, a marriage counselor whose job is to keep the peace. Right. So perhaps things aren’t always so healthy in these marriages. We can get a little bit more into that later. But first of all, thank you for the the compliments about the hard hats. I really enjoyed. [00:03:26][14.1]
Stuart Turley: [00:03:27] Just jealous of your hair. I’m going to leave. You know. [00:03:29][2.1]
Alma Cook: [00:03:30] I do have quite a bit of hair you can have some if you like, but basically what I do, as I said. So I’m sitting in the gap between the service providers and the operators. Every time a service writer works for a BP or a shell, Shell’s lawyers are like, Oh, we don’t want to get sued if something goes wrong on site. You know, like if a guy sprains his ankle or loses an arm or loses an eye or, God forbid, dies, Shell doesn’t want any of that liability to fall on them. [00:03:59][29.2]
Alma Cook: [00:04:00] And so every single contractor and every single subcontractor of those subcontractors has to to apply all of these layers of liability protection, whether that’s safety training, whether that’s insurance, whether that’s written programs, whether that’s certain acknowledgment. I could list like 100 different things that that sometimes entails, and it’s different for every operator. So hello, complexity. [00:04:23][22.7]
Alma Cook: [00:04:25] So I help decode some of that for the service provider because they’re just trying to get a job done. They’re just trying to work, but you know, Billy the Welder, he grew up on a farm. He’s not exactly like hip to the latest software. He’s not interested in pushing a lot of paper around. [00:04:40][15.1]
Stuart Turley: [00:04:41] Right. [00:04:41][0.0]
Alma Cook: [00:04:41] It’s not that he’s too dumb to do so. He just has better things to do because he didn’t get into the business of welding so that he could become a compliance management check like me. So I take a hint all that grunt work for them. Sometimes it’s more administrative where I’m going through and saying, okay, what’s important, what what boxes can I check that I know I can legally check? Sometimes it’s it’s a negotiating. [00:05:06][25.3]
Alma Cook: [00:05:07] Like just yesterday I’m helping a buddy or a client of mine. Excuse me. He’s also a buddy, but a client of mine talk down the insurance requirements that are being asked of him. And sometimes it’s an educator’s role where I’m like, Hey, Billy, This is what T.R.I.R means. This is what a dart rate is this what an EMR is and how you requested. [00:05:24][16.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:05:25] Right now when you sit back and you kind of go. I’m going to do that. Did I get your compliance person? But you’re not a safety man on the tailgate and forgive me, safety person on that, because everybody hates the safety man. [00:05:45][19.9]
Alma Cook: [00:05:46] Everyone hates. [00:05:46][0.5]
Stuart Turley: [00:05:47] Them. Everybody hates them. But you’re a compliance person. [00:05:49][2.8]
Alma Cook: [00:05:52] Yeah. So safety and compliance are they overlap? Compliance encompasses so many different things. Some of them are actually very operational focused rather than safety. Is insurance a safety issue? Well, I don’t know. Sometimes it can be, depending on what you’re insuring and what kind of loss you’re experiencing that you have to to make a claim on, but compliance encompasses more that so its safety and many other things. [00:06:20][28.0]
Alma Cook: [00:06:21] And sometimes I am on the ground. I mean, like I’ve walked clients through various inspections. I help them with audits. I do build safety training resources for them. But because because in part I’m also a musician, you know, 50% of the time. [00:06:35][14.1]
Stuart Turley: [00:06:36] Yep. [00:06:36][0.0]
Alma Cook: [00:06:36] I have to be very careful how I’m, you know, weighing the opportunity cost of spending time on the ground. [00:06:41][5.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:06:42] Right. I’ll tell you, it’s kind of cool. I’m a musician 50% of the time, you know, And I never would have thought when I graduated college that I’d go, I’m a podcast host, you know, 50% at a time. [00:06:52][9.8]
Alma Cook: [00:06:53] I know who could imagine, like technology enables us to do so many things still. [00:06:57][4.1]
Stuart Turley: [00:06:57] Oh, Unbelievable. Your music career and you just released the 5000 Candles last week, is that right? [00:07:07][9.5]
Alma Cook: [00:07:07] I did 5000 Candles, a new song and music video that just came out last week. [00:07:11][3.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:07:11] I’ll tell you, I was I love the video. If you can’t tell. I just was excited about the video and getting to visit with you and know everything about you that… [00:07:19][8.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:07:20] The important thing is the oil and gas folks who provide low cost energy to the United States are unsung heroes. [00:07:28][7.5]
Stuart Turley: [00:07:29] And that’s one of the things that I really liked about your video. Tell us about why you wrote 5000 Candles. [00:07:36][7.2]
Alma Cook: [00:07:38] Sure. Well, as you know, Stu, as you said, the men and women who work in the oil and gas and let’s be real, they’re usually men. And that’s perfectly fine. They are kind of caught up in this PR battle, this political, they just become a political talking point. They become this laugh line or applause line and they get called rednecks. They are misunderstood for for whatever education they have or don’t have. [00:08:04][26.2]
Stuart Turley: [00:08:05] Right. [00:08:05][0.0]
Alma Cook: [00:08:05] And what I realized quickly when I fell into the oil and gas play in the back and by complete accident, was that oh, gosh, there’s all these things that I thought were true about this group of people that are really not true. Oh, and by the way, everything in our lives depends on petrochemicals. So the paint on your wall, the, you know, the fertilizer that makes your food fertilizer is made from natural gas. What? Who knows that? [00:08:30][24.7]
Stuart Turley: [00:08:31] Right. [00:08:31][0.0]
Alma Cook: [00:08:31] Natural gas to pull nitrogen out of the air and then put. [00:08:33][2.2]
Stuart Turley: [00:08:33] Your podcast microphone. [00:08:34][0.8]
Alma Cook: [00:08:35] Exactly. Every bit of music equipment on stage was was powered by oil and gas. And so it’s very funny to me when people in the pop culture sphere and will malign this entire industry, including the hardworking people there in when every bit of equipment they’re using relies on the resources that we’re extracting out of the ground. [00:08:55][19.4]
Alma Cook: [00:08:55] And so I, I really wrote the song to celebrate a group of people that I didn’t feel was adequately celebrated. And I wanted to do it in a way that wasn’t hokey and wasn’t corporate, but was really a sincere love song rather than just some kind of ideological anthem trying to get people to change their minds about something. [00:09:12][16.7]
Stuart Turley: [00:09:13] Now that that guitar is in the lead is not a normal guitar, is it? What kind of did you dig? Is that that little instrument? I mean, you’ve got that. Such a neat little rhythm in there. How did you write it with that? If that makes sense. [00:09:31][17.8]
Alma Cook: [00:09:31] Sure. So I hear let me actually bring my instrument down second. I don’t play guitar myself, but what I do play is is baritone ukulele, which is like the highest four strings of a guitar. [00:09:42][11.0]
Alma Cook: [00:09:43] Now, this looks like a guitar because it has a guitars body, this is a tenor guitar. It’s just like a guitar with a little cheat code because it has four strings and it’s effectively the same as a baritone. [00:09:53][10.1]
Stuart Turley: [00:09:54] Okay. [00:09:54][0.0]
Alma Cook: [00:09:54] So I wrote that riff that the to read basically because there’s only four strings here and I wanted to develop a rhythm that wasn’t just like strumming. Strumming. [00:10:04][9.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:10:05] Okay. [00:10:05][0.0]
Alma Cook: [00:10:06] I just was trying to give it a little bit of Texas. [00:10:08][2.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:10:08] Give us a few of those. [00:10:09][0.8]
Alma Cook: [00:10:10] Oh, gosh, I don’t think that I’m in tune, Stu, on that. Another time I’m. [00:10:15][4.6]
Stuart Turley: [00:10:15] Tone deaf, so, you know, it’s okay. [00:10:16][1.4]
Alma Cook: [00:10:18] Perfect. We’re good. We’re a good team then,. [00:10:19][1.5]
Stuart Turley: [00:10:20] Oh My God [00:10:20][0.0]
Alma Cook: [00:10:22] The guitar you see in the video is different from the one that was in the studio. [00:10:25][3.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:10:26] Okay,. [00:10:26][0.0]
Alma Cook: [00:10:26] People. Everybody’s lip synching in the music video, and everyone’s just miming their instrument. So it’s actually a different gentleman who’s playing the track than. Than you see on the screen. [00:10:35][8.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:10:36] Okay. [00:10:36][0.0]
Alma Cook: [00:10:36] Yeah, they did a really good job. I thought of taking my very primitive ukulele parts and draining into something that was more whole sounding. [00:10:45][8.8]
Stuart Turley: [00:10:46] It was not a old steel guitar. I mean, it was something different and I did not know what it was, but I could tell through my tone deaf ears that it was something different. [00:10:57][10.7]
Alma Cook: [00:10:57] So I think it’s an electric. I think it’s like, But I can ask for you what what model, what make and model it. It was… [00:11:03][5.2]
Stuart Turley: [00:11:05] It just sounded absolutely fantastic. [00:11:06][1.4]
Alma Cook: [00:11:08] Thank You Stu. [00:11:08][0.2]
Stuart Turley: [00:11:08] So if you’ve got this, you’re a rare beast, if you don’t mind me saying this, and that is you’ve got your own company. You’re in the oil industry acting as a marriage counselor between everybody that is having all of these issues. And then you’re also a musician, L.A. and traveling around around. What got you started in the oil patch? We hadn’t talked about that yet. [00:11:37][29.2]
Alma Cook: [00:11:38] Sure. So fresh out of college, I took a remote position working as a copy editor, meaning I was a professional grammar Natzi. And it was a it was a real job. [00:11:48][10.2]
Stuart Turley: [00:11:50] Did you say Grammar Natzi? [00:11:50][0.0]
Alma Cook: [00:11:51] Yes professional grammar Natzi, I’ve always had a knack for style and grammar, just kind of an intuition for it, some of our brains are just built for those types of patterns. So I was working as a popular I thought that I was going to be in this job forever too, because it suited my personality really well. The remote nature of the position enabled me to travel and tour and play festivals and whatnot. [00:12:11][19.5]
Alma Cook: [00:12:13] But one day when I was actually driving to a music festival that I was playing several years ago, I got a call from my supervisor saying, I really don’t want to deliver this news to you, but the company has decided to separate, and this was for a whole host of reasons that I shouldn’t get in to today I have nothing but love for that company looking back and actually hired my supervisor, my former supervisor today. So I kind of poached her and now she’s part of my team. So. [00:12:37][24.6]
Stuart Turley: [00:12:38] No way! [00:12:38][0.1]
Alma Cook: [00:12:39] No way. Right?. But but yeah, so I thought my world was ending. Remote positions may be a dime a dozen today still, but back then it was very rare to have a work from home job. [00:12:50][10.7]
Stuart Turley: [00:12:51] When is she getting her two week notice because I don’t want this podcast releasing. [00:12:54][2.7]
Alma Cook: [00:12:57] Right. Sorry. Yeah, it could help us all. So I, I got fired from this gig that I thought I would be in for. I had been in that position for five years and and I thought my world was over. So I just, you know, was moping around, doing a lot of crying, doing a lot of soul searching. [00:13:18][21.2]
Alma Cook: [00:13:18] I remember when I got up on stage to even play that festival that I was driving to, I was I was in tears and everyone thought that I was just so moved by my music. But I was like, so scared of the future of what was what was happening. [00:13:28][10.1]
Alma Cook: [00:13:29] But then I sent a text to a friend, a family friend of mine who my brother had met when he studied abroad in Thailand in like 2007 or something like that. The craziest story, this gentleman just became a family friend. He happened to be from Williston, North Dakota, and because he was from Williston and there was a lot happening in that region during the oh nine, 2010 period, he ended up starting a safety company of his own. [00:13:55][25.6]
Alma Cook: [00:13:56] And when I texted him after this job loss and he’s like, well, you know, almost funny you say that there’s a one remote position in our company and it and it just opened up this week because the guy left. So in a in like a miraculous twist of fate four days after I was fired from my copy editor role, I was hired as a compliance manager in an industry that I knew nothing about. [00:14:17][21.1]
Stuart Turley: [00:14:20] I’ll tell you, I’m a little nervous because when we put these out, we put the podcasts out, we put them out on our energy news, the Web website, and then you’re going to be critical of the way that it’s authored. So I’m going to be very, very scared when we drop this. [00:14:36][15.8]
Alma Cook: [00:14:37] From a grammar read style, Oh no! Did i say something wrong. [00:14:40][3.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:14:41] I’m just going to be very, very nervous because, you know. [00:14:43][2.2]
Alma Cook: [00:14:44] Not a problem Stu, I’m very good at turning that switch off in my daily life, but I do. I will say I think the copy editor skill set works very well as a compliance check because there’s a lot of detail orientation in both. So I’ve just repurposed, repurposed the skills. [00:14:58][14.1]
Stuart Turley: [00:15:00] That is so fun. Now, is your family up there in where you’re at now? [00:15:04][4.6]
Alma Cook: [00:15:05] Not my blood family, but one reason that I’ve spent more and more time there over the last several years is because some of my closest friends live there. I’ve just developed really close relationships. [00:15:15][10.0]
Alma Cook: [00:15:16] So I don’t have any family in North Dakota. We’re all in Wisconsin, my brother’s in Pennsylvania, and my fiancee actually is in Houston. So I’m geographically very complicated Stu. [00:15:26][10.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:15:29] I hear that. [00:15:29][0.5]
Alma Cook: [00:15:29] But yeah, but I have all the community that I need up there and it’s it’s it’s the best home that I’ve ever had. [00:15:34][4.8]
Stuart Turley: [00:15:34] Okay. A couple questions. If your brother is in Pennsylvania, is he in the oil patch in the Marcellus? [00:15:40][5.3]
Alma Cook: [00:15:41] No. Good question. Still, he’s actually an economics professor at Penn State. [00:15:47][5.5]
Stuart Turley: [00:15:47] Oh, cool. [00:15:48][0.4]
Alma Cook: [00:15:49] And if he hadn’t opened my mind toward libertarian economics, I probably wouldn’t have been in oil and gas in the first place and seen the romance in capitalism and industry. So I should give him credit for at least part of the story. [00:16:01][12.2]
Stuart Turley: [00:16:02] All right. Here’s another one year for Nancy or your fiance financing. That’s the way we say it in Texas is your fiancee. He’s in Houston, that’s an oil town. Is he in the oil industry? [00:16:15][13.2]
Alma Cook: [00:16:16] He is adjacent to it. David is the very smartest person I know in the entire world and I mean it, it’s like the smartest person I’ve ever personally met. And he he just got his master’s degree in Earth science systems, he’s a geology undergrad, so there’s quite a bit of potential for him to work in oil and gas if he should desire that. [00:16:39][22.5]
Alma Cook: [00:16:39] But right now he actually works for a startup called B Carbon, which is developing a private carbon market for oil companies that wish to offset emissions and cater to these new ESG standards that are emerging. [00:16:51][11.5]
Alma Cook: [00:16:51] But what’s funny about B Carbon is they they’re so data driven and very, very rigorous about how they measure emissions and so forth. But they’re really focused on biodiversity and and benefits that have nothing to do with these metrics that everybody’s chattering about in the public sphere. [00:17:08][16.5]
Alma Cook: [00:17:09] It’s all about, okay, how how can we preserve topsoil better? How can we enrich? So they’re smuggling in beautifully all of these really amazing environmental benefits under under the guise of this market that, you know, is is a hot topic but maybe not what’s most important to the moment. [00:17:25][16.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:17:26] One of the things I’ve always said is there is no ESG without accountability. So it’ll be kind of interesting to hear from David on how that turns around. [00:17:37][11.2]
Stuart Turley: [00:17:38] Let’s see, a compliance officer in an ESG company working on carbon offsets, y’all. I’m going to have some real exciting dinner topics coming up around the corner here. [00:17:47][9.2]
Alma Cook: [00:17:47] Oh, yeah. I mean, we already have the most fun, fun dinners already. It’s such a such a bright guy and I love the people who work at that company. I wouldn’t say that they’re an ESG company per say. I mean, you and I know that ESG brings forth very mixed emotions and people in the industry and I’m no friend to ESG myself,. [00:18:07][19.9]
[00:18:10] I see the way it hurts my own clients you know, these very small mom and pop companies that can’t keep up with these bizarre standards. And as nice as it is in theory, and we all want to protect and conserve the environment in theory, I don’t know that ESG is the way to get there. [00:18:24][14.2]
Alma Cook: [00:18:25] So I would put them in a little different boat than ESG company. But they’re certainly, you know, making the ESG people happy for whatever reason. [00:18:34][8.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:18:34] It’s why I say there is no ESG with accountability, because you can go out there and go, I’m ESG friendly and have nothing going on. [00:18:44][9.5]
Alma Cook: [00:18:44] Nothing. And it’s the same as from a compliance team. So that’s just like, you know, the environmental standpoint when you look at the social and the governance. [00:18:51][6.7]
Alma Cook: [00:18:52] I mean, I always tell people all the time, you could kill a guy on site and I could still make you look compliant on paper. Well, I’ll do it. I know how to do it. I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t because that’s that’s betraying the ethics that I hold in in what I do and it’s it’s utterly like, you know, morally reprehensible to that. [00:19:13][21.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:19:13] You I cannot let you around my wife, if she heard anything like that and. She’d say, okay, she had a check my insurance, make sure my life insurance was ah, I could see a mafia movie coming out of this thing. So, please. You’re not gonna be doing. [00:19:29][16.0]
Alma Cook: [00:19:29] Compliance mafia. Yeah. Yeah, but that’s that’s all just to your point, Stu, that there’s a lot of paper being pushed around, and sometimes it’s an accurate reflection of what’s happening on the ground in many, many times it’s not. [00:19:43][13.6]
Stuart Turley: [00:19:45] So if you’re hiring people, you must be scaling cook. And so as you grow and try to go where is cook your company going? What’s going on with it? [00:20:00][15.0]
Alma Cook: [00:20:01] So I don’t know that scaling is actually in the wings for me Stu. And I can already hear some of my my really business savy friends like wincing across the country when I say this. [00:20:13][11.8]
Alma Cook: [00:20:14] But the reality is that I’m you know, I’m getting married in August and I’m marrying a Catholic so babies are probably very imminent. And I really value I think, yeah, that’s just how they do things. [00:20:24][9.7]
Alma Cook: [00:20:25] And I really value, you know, being hands on with my friends and my future spouse and family. So as much as I would love to stay in the not only in the thick of the business, but growing it. I don’t know that that’s wise considering the rest of my life. [00:20:39][14.4]
Alma Cook: [00:20:39] So, so far I’ve really enjoyed keeping things boutique, not just for the reasons I mentioned, but because I can give my clients the most hands on experience that they’ve ever received in this area, and I take a lot of pride in that. [00:20:52][12.2]
Alma Cook: [00:20:52] So, I mean, I am growing, I am growing and I am hiring and I am needing more and more help by the day. But I don’t think that it’s an exponential growth I think we’ll probably, you know, cap our client base at some point and even make it a little bit more exclusive and say, hey, we’re not taking new clients right now, you’ll have to get in line. We’re just kind of invigorating in its own way. [00:21:13][20.3]
Stuart Turley: [00:21:13] Oh, that is my daughter. We just had our first grandchild, and so I I’m just in, you know, and in hog heaven with my grandma is she is a professional as well, too. So you’re still going to be running your own company and doing your own song and being a mom. So I wouldn’t hold that. You know, you could do all of that these days. [00:21:37][23.6]
Alma Cook: [00:21:38] You know, it would be fun. It would be fun. But, you know, it’s it’s easy to say that from the outside. And I really just have to to see what the future holds before I make that call. [00:21:48][9.2]
Alma Cook: [00:21:48] But I am trying to get my company to a point where it can run itself with very minimal involvement from me so that my clients can still be taken care of and I don’t have to drop anybody because that’s the worst case scenario, right? Is having to make everybody find a new compliance chick. [00:22:01][12.6]
Stuart Turley: [00:22:02] Compliance chick. I’m glad you said that, because I can not in this day and age. [00:22:07][4.4]
Alma Cook: [00:22:07] I give you permission still allowed. [00:22:09][1.7]
Stuart Turley: [00:22:12] Compliance chick.. [00:22:12][0.1]
Stuart Turley: [00:22:12] Because H.R. would be going up here in just a minute and saying, hey, wait a minute. Well, this is so exciting because women need to be able to have kids, have a quality of their life that they choose and own the company. It is totally all doable together. My daughter is is an example of that as well, too. She’s I’m very proud of her. [00:22:37][25.5]
Alma Cook: [00:22:38] That’s really cool to hear. [00:22:38][0.8]
Stuart Turley: [00:22:40] But none of us in our family have any musical talent. So, you know, that’s why we appreciate music. [00:22:46][5.6]
Alma Cook: [00:22:47] Oh, well, thanks, Jerome. Glad. [00:22:49][2.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:22:50] So when are you coming out with an album, though? [00:22:52][1.9]
Alma Cook: [00:22:53] It should be later this year. I’ve learned better than to make strong predictions about specific dates, but I’m actually in L.A. currently working on mixing, and we have our next session. I think our next mixing session is Thursday, so pretty soon here. [00:23:08][14.3]
Alma Cook: [00:23:08] I’ve been sitting on these songs for a long time. 5000 Candles is on the album, but it’s not really representative of the style of the album, per say. It’s similar, it’s the same flavor, but it’s really more of like a live pop R&B record than it is like the live, a folk Americana that you hear on 5000 Candles. Still very exciting. [00:23:25][17.5]
Stuart Turley: [00:23:26] Oh, cool. I can’t wait to get it and buy it and everything else. But you’re available right now on Apple Podcasts, on Apple Music, and so go buy it. It was best $0.99 I bought because I’m zipping around the house going, I got stuck down here looking like you. [00:23:46][19.5]
Alma Cook: [00:23:47] I appreciate that. [00:23:47][0.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:23:48] And we’re going to have all of your information and everything in the show notes and we just are so excited you stopped by the Energy News Beat Podcast today. So thank you very much, Jorma And you are going to just do absolute wonderful things around the corner. [00:24:06][17.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:24:06] Thank you. Thank you. I really appreciate that. [00:24:09][2.3]
Stuart Turley: [00:24:09] Thanks. [00:24:09][0.0]
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