The War Within: Flynn on Energy, Elections, and Corruption

In this episode of Energy Newsbeat – Conversations in Energy, Lt. General Mike Flynn joins Stu Turley to discuss the deep-rooted corruption in U.S. institutions, the need for election integrity reforms, and the national security risks posed by failing energy policy and refinery shutdowns. Flynn highlights key insights from his bestselling book A Pardon of Innocence, calls for a national emergency to ensure fair federal elections, and outlines the global consequences of prolonged conflict in Ukraine.

The conversation also touches on fifth-generation warfare, the strategic role of India in geopolitics, and why America needs an urgent energy-first agenda to secure its future. General Flynn even pointed out that Gavin Newsom’s left-wing energy polices fit into the fifth-generation warfare mode. This is a huge topic, and we have to be aware of how to combat the energy regulations from the left and the green energy wealth transfer.

Bottom line, we have to get involved locally.

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:00:03] So the president is going to have a massive America first energy summit and then plow new ground because soapbox that this is politics usual. The president of the United States declares a national emergency and says for federal elections, here’s how we’re going to do it. Let’s fight for peace in instead of continuing this.

Stu Turley, Energy News Beat Host [00:00:30] General Flynn, again, thank you for coming by the podcast and on the pardon of innocence in the book. It is so timely right now with your book. It’s an outstanding book, and we want everyone to get out and buy it. But this week, with the potential of Cole Me being, I’m hoping, perp walk and the rumors that Cash Patel had to stop somebody, I I don’t know if that’s true or not, or if he had to let somebody go because they wouldn’t. Is this coming? Tell us about your book and tell us about how soon we’re gonna see some of these indictments.

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:01:03] Well, a couple of things. First of all, thanks for promoting the book. It’s a great book. It’s a bestseller, actually. It is a book that will, for the for anybody that decides to read it, it will make you cry. It will make you laugh. It will make you very angry at how deep our the corruption is in our government. I think most people realize it, but I get very specific in that book about some about sort of you know all sides of the corruption issue. And at the end of the book, you know, I try to provide some type of inspiration, you know, like where are we going from here? What is it that we need to do? So you know, those are just emotional roller coasters. And I think I think when a book does that to you, that’s the that’s I think the eighth book that I’ve written, and three of them are bestsellers. So I so I, you know, I I think what I like to try to do is I like to try to get people’s emotions and grab them when they’re reading. And so a Parton of Innocence is really, it’s not just a story of Russia Gate, it’s a story of, you know, it’s a it’s a human interest story of how a family was that that has a life of service to the country was really brutally treated by our own government, but was able to survive through through, you know, really faith and and family, especially the strength of you know, both those two things combined for me. So now now the other part of your question is about Comey, because I do address Jim Comey in the book quite a bit. You know, will Comey be perp walked? You know, my comment on this really, Sue, is that I’m I actually it is heartbreaking to me that our country is in this position. So I’m not, you know, I’m not gonna be like patting myself on the back or we’re not gonna be high-fiving each other about Comey. I’m not. I’m just not because I think it’s such a bad, bad place for the United States of America to have allowed ourselves to get, you know, to arrive here. Now. Right. Yeah. Guys like Comey, he is to blame. Others that are that I do believe will be indicted in the future, they are to blame because of their own greed and arrogance and desire to, you know, as Barack Obama talked about, fundamentally transform America, because this is essentially what this is about. But it’s also, it’s also heartbreaking that we are in a place like this because at the end of the day, as a constitutional republic, it is us, the people of this country that are responsible. And we shouldn’t have any of these types of people working inside of our government, but we do because the American people have backed away from their citizens’ responsibilities to get out and do things like vote or participate in the processes of government. And when and when we just sort of let the politicians you know run amok like they have, then you know, we get what we get. And we have people like Comey, we have an a president for two terms like Obama. We have a communist like like John Brennan, he’s a communist. You know, he was the he was not only the director of the CIA, he was also the director of homeland security under underneath Obama. He was also, he was also a chief of station in the Middle East, which is in Saudi Arabia, very, very senior position for the CIA. You know, so there’s a lot more to this than just Jim Comey and whether or not Jim Comey, you know, is actually seriously threatened by prison time. Right now, I think it’s 50-50, Stu. I’m not because if you saw what what the president had to do to change out the Eastern District of Virginia leadership just recently, right? I mean, that tells you everything you need to know. I mean, the the the depth of corruption inside of the Department of Justice, beneath Cash, beneath Dan, beneath, you know, Pam Bondi and some of the others, there’s still there’s whatever 90 to 93 U.S. Attorneys’ offices out there around the country. How many of them are are like the Eastern District of Virginia? So so I’m not I’m not convinced. I’m not. It’s it’s sad where our country is at. I I think that President Trump, I do believe that President Trump is adamant that people are going to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I do believe that. I do believe that President Trump has directed the the Department of Justice under under Pam Bondi to actually get after the you know some of the names that are clearly mentioned in my book, right? Right. Clapper, Comey, Brennan, others, you know, maybe Susan Rice. Maybe there’s some others in there that are maybe there’s some other indictments that we’re gonna see that will be surprises, right? Or oh, I didn’t see that one coming, you know, kind of kind of indictments. But it’s again, the indictments are are a symptom of bigger problems that our nation is experiencing right now. And that’s that’s where my head is at. That’s where my you know, my ideas about what do we do in the future to overcome these problems, right?

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:05:39] Yeah and

Stu Turley, Energy News Beat Host [00:05:40] If we education, yeah. Yeah, education is number one. On your book, you said the coup against President Trump is a dark chapter in American history. Devin said part of why we made the Flynn film and asked people like Devin to speak to the crew and the document what happened. It has to be part of what’s taught in the American school system, Devin said. This has got to be taught. And our colleges have been eviscerated, and it is a problem.

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:06:09] Yeah. I mean, that’s a that’s that book that you’re holding up there, you know, that that should be it’s an easy read. It’s there’s nothing complicated in there. You know, I mean, like high schoolers ought to be, you know, certainly private schools and charter schools are homeschooling. I mean, you know, I mean, and and certainly colleges, law schools ought to read it. Law schools ought to study it as a as a as part of case case law and read it to go, you know, and say, okay, how did how does stuff like this happen? How does the judge, a federal judge, allow a prosecutor and an attorney who I had, my my defense attorney, and then the prosecutor under Muller, by the name of Van Grack was the name of the prosecutor. How does the judge know that they both lied and let them still get away with it? So the judge learned that they both lied to him in a f in a federal court while I was sitting there. And that what were there any side deals made? And the answer was, yeah, there were side deals made. And we have the proof of that. We presented the proof to the judge. The judge should have immediately thrown the whole thing out, which he still did. He did it took him forever to do that. But he should have, he should have brought those, he should have had fines against those attorneys, the prosecutor and the defense attorney. And he should have probably, you know, put them in for consideration of some sort of ethical and legal, you know, fine, or just from it. I mean, it was that bad. So, but he didn’t. And that’s the so that’s the judiciary. So my experience with the judiciary is what what we’re seeing right now, Stu, in the country fighting Donald Trump’s every single decision he makes. The the judicial branch at the lowest levels, the federal level, the the, I’m sorry, the district level, every single one of them is holding up and saying, you know, this is unlawful, he can’t do this, and then it’s got to get appealed. That’s their strategy. That’s the Marxist, that’s the Marxist strategy. And I’m gonna say this very specifically, and I’m gonna say it again. That is the Marxist strategy as part of this color revolution that we are involved in. And and Trump realizes it. I think that the people around Trump need to need to get off the the soapbox that this is politics as as you know, usual. It’s not. This is the takeover of our country. We’re in the midst of a color revolution, and and if we don’t stop it by holding people accountable, then we will lose the country.

Stu Turley, Energy News Beat Host [00:08:24] Coming around into the midterms of next year, A, I am no longer a Republican, so to speak. I am an American first. I am tired of rhinos and tired of just Democrats in general. But we’ve got to get the election fraud figured out and prosecuted now. And boy, if we don’t California is gone. Gavin Newsome, I want to talk about that later on, but Gavin Newsom has totally created a national security risk in California, and it is a real problem. How do we fix? You know, they did the same thing to the pillow guy that they did to you and tried to take him out. And he’s been out trying to do election integrity.

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:09:10] Yeah. So the so the the president of the United States has appointed recently A an officer to be the basically the assistant to the president for election security and integrity. Now, so what does that mean? That means that he has now appointed someone to really take a hard look at 2020 and 2024 and then make some some recommendations about the next steps, right? Which is really what the American people are looking for. Well, you know, how are we going to go through an elections process or another election if nothing changed, right? That’s the question. And people go, yeah, we’re still using machines, we still have mail-in ballots, and we know all those things are just filled with fraud, right? There’s all kinds of fraudulent activity and behavior, and it’s all been proven, you know, there’s no more guesswork here. So that’s that’s just a statement of you know, some of fact, some of allegation, maybe, but but certainly the experience that I’ve had over the last four and a half years of being part of an election integrity movement to get our elections to where people trust them, right? So I think the only way that that’s gonna happen that for for the federal elections, because most elections are done via the states, right? I think the only way that we’re gonna have a fair federal election is if the president of the United States declares a you know, some sort of a national emergency and says for federal elections, here’s how we’re gonna do it. Here’s step one, step two, step three, you know, and that’s that’s you know, a legitimate ID, right? Picture ID. That’s that’s a that’s a valid identification, no mail-in ballots. You know, I don’t and I’m okay with early voting, I’m okay with early voting. You know, you go in there at paper ballots. I think we need to go to paper ballots, and then of course, on on election day, we do a basically a paper count. And it’s done by you know, the the the in an unbiased way by the competing parties, right? People are in there at the at the precinct level. The precinct level is where it’s gonna need to be done. They count as they as the day goes on, and at the end of the night, by what the time the polls close, plus one or two hours, they have a a solid count, right? They they send it up to county, county sends it up to state, state sends it up. I mean, that doesn’t take that long with the day and age of communications. So though that’s the process that the president’s gonna have to to declare, and then I think he’s gonna have to to do it via some type of national emergency because most states, even even red states are are not, they’re not, you know, they’re out there, you know. I think I think some of the southern states right now are already, I’m told they’re already purchasing new machines and you know, it’s like they’re spending hundreds of millions of dollars on this stuff. Because and why? It’s because there’s money to be made for these contracts.

Stu Turley, Energy News Beat Host [00:11:49] Yes, and and the political graft and greed that our country and politicians you nailed it, sir, when you basically just said it starts at the county. We all as Americans need to be down at the county helping count and watch. And if you’ve got to get involved with your election officials and make it happen to document it, because we all saw in 2020 the all the thousands and thousands of truckloads show up. But as soon as you mention something, you were thrown off of all social media for same.

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:12:24] Or or you were sued, like you mentioned, you know, you mentioned my pillow, my or or you were sued, or you or they tried to disbar you, like my my great former lawyer Sidney Powell. I mean oh I mean they went after they went after Rudy Giuliani. They bankrupted Rudy Giuliani, they went after really some of the best conservative lawyers we have in the country. And and there’s still some of them are still fighting disbarment. Even even as I speak here today, there’s still some of them, you know, fighting disfarmant. Not one of them out in California. It’s just insane. I so I think that the president’s gonna have to step in. I I just don’t see it any other way.

Stu Turley, Energy News Beat Host [00:12:55] I think that’s fabulous. Let’s move to Russia. And your Russia, Russia, Russia is kind of like Marsha Marsha Marsha on the Brady Bunch. You know, I’m so you sit back and kind of go, I think President Putin, when President Putin showed up to Alaska, he was ready to do a deal. He wants to do business. Putin has telegraphed many, many times. He wants to do business with the United States. As an OPEC plus member, they are pretty well wiped out as far as being able to bring additional oil to market. Sanctions don’t work. His GDP has been growing. He’s now going to stagnate this year for just a little bit. And he’s going to do still fine because the dark fleet is 1400 tankers. Of the 1400 tankers, about 725 of them are Russian. And Ukraine just took out a few of the refineries. But let’s let’s really try to figure out why is Zelensky tubing this because it seems like President Trump doesn’t have much of a chance with Zelensky there. And President Putin wants to do business with the United States. That seems to me to be the best way to get the war over. But Zelensky is going back to you to London and the Bank of London and everything else. It just seems like that is a huge hurdle. What are your thoughts there?

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:14:25] Well, the war yeah, yeah, wow. But the war in Ukraine started in twenty fourteen. Okay. Yep. So it’s been going on for over ten years. Okay. It it it sort of upticked when when Uncle Joe Biden took office with the all with his auto pen, right? So there was an uptick in activities, but there was not much much more. Wasn’t a greater uptick, but with you know, from in terms of what the Russian military objectives were or appeared to be, and but what did happen was a lot more people got killed. A lot more people got killed in the last four years than did get killed in the previous period of time. So Where do I think the war is right now? I think the war is lost. I think that Ukraine won. I think that that the position that the geographic position and the military position that the Russians hold right now is is unlikely to be changed by by anything but a much, much greater act of military force and capability, which is going to cost the United States of America billions of more dollars, potentially lives, right? And certainly prestige and and other other resources on the world stage. I just feel like that, you know, for all those that that say we’re going to drain Mother Russia of resources and even some of the things that you just talked about, Stu, there’s an awful lot of oil being being sold on the black market. A lot of it comes right, it flows through Iran. It flows from east of the Urals in Russia into China. I mean, so we let’s not kid ourselves, and let’s also not kid ourselves about the ability for the Russian people to also be loyal to their country and to also feel like, you know, and to be prepared to sacrifice if they feel like somebody is going to attack their sovereignty. Because all Putin is doing is Putin’s protecting the sovereignty of his country. That’s what he’s doing. And he’s also protecting, well, he’s also he’s also sending a message that says, hey, look, for 25, 30, actually for 35 years, you know, you guys have been lying to us about the encroachment of the Russian boundaries, the Russian border. So okay, so that’s that’s that side. Because I, you know, I’m I’m I’m one of these very practical guys about warfare. When I look at war, you know, there’s all the different conditions that you look at, and it’s not just military. From the Ukrainian perspective, the Ukrainians don’t have the they don’t have the wherewithal to be able to continue to execute this war. So there’s some serious problems here. So to me, to me, there’s got to be a and and because I do agree with you that the that the meeting in Alaska was one where I think that that Putin was ready to cut a deal there. And I think that there could have been a buffer zone. There could have been a much, you know, not just a ceasefire, but a peace agreement that that was that was lasting. And there could be some type of buffer zone, some type of of joint or combined military peacekeeping force, you know, that we’ve done in like the Balkans and other parts of the world. There could have been a lifting of sanctions globally, frankly, and and and the economic conditions could have immediately spiraled upward. And now there could be legitimate talks about reconstruction of some of the some of the destroyed parts of Ukraine, and frankly, even even in even in Russia. I mean, you know, let’s help each other out. Let’s let’s fight for peace instead of instead of continuing this long drawn out war that is doing nothing but actually it’s damaging President Trump’s ability to be able to have legitimacy, frankly, right here at home, because Trump campaigned on I’m gonna end the war on day one, and here we are, whatever, nine months later, and it’s getting it seems to be getting worse. And the more the worse it gets, Stu, the closer we get to more talk about nuclear weapons. And I don’t want to talk about nuclear weapons, but that’s This gets to something where, you know, all these neo, these neo-phytes that are out there that want to attack Moscow. I mean, and and and you know, and and on touch point on Zelensky, I mean, Zelensky is the wrong guy. And and Ukraine is a massive, it’s just a crime scene. It’s like a huge crime scene, and and and the United States government knows it, President Trump knows it, our Department of Justice knows it. So, you know, that that’s some thoughts on sort of a stream of consciousness on the war in Ukraine. It has to end. And we’ve got to come up with you know more of a of a wise man’s solution that that puts some permanency on what is it that we really want to do. Personally, I think that Putin wants a long-term, I think what I think that Putin, but also think the Russian people want a long-term relationship with the American people. That’s what I really believe. There’s nothing wrong with that.

Stu Turley, Energy News Beat Host [00:19:08] Not there in fact, when he showed up in in Alaska, he he made a proclamation and was trying to figure out how to get money back so the Socklin project could get restarted again. But I believe ExxonMobil’s out a couple billion bucks, so they he was working on getting that money back to them, but he made a proclamation to get it there. If he wants, he has telegraphed many times. I want to do business with President Trump. That’s the way to win in the war. Beating him and threatening India on sanctions has only caused more devaluation of the US dollar. And I believe that’s a mistake on President Trump’s part by enforcing sanctions. Sanctions don’t work as intended, as Irina Swan, the great authorist says.

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:19:59] Yeah, no, let me let me jump on a couple of points that you just made because you mentioned India. India is like super important here, okay? Yes. And you know, for anybody that’s been following the BRICS consortium. But one of the things about India, and I do think that India could play a big role, a bigger role here, and and they are they are trying to. The Indians, their military is pretty much made by Russia. Their naval, their naval capabilities, their aircraft, their small arms. I mean, you know, the Indians in Russia have a long-term relationship. And so whatever sanctions that the United States puts on Russia, India doesn’t have to abide by those sanctions. And they and they can’t because India has long-term, and they’re in that, you know, when you look geostrategically, they’re in that region, right? They’re in that, in that, in that part of the world on that side of the world where these guys, they look at the United States and go, okay, you know, fine, but but we’re we’re going to continue to work with them. And that also includes potential for energy. Energy is another another component here. So India is is a big, big player. India has some tension with China because of their borders disputes, which they’ve always had, you know, up along the Nepal area. And but but also India also spees China, because remember, they’re part of the BRICS consortium, right? Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, and then many others. The Saudis have joined it. Iranians are part of it, Venezuela’s part of it. I mean, but the but the BRICS consortium is important. And it’s important for us to understand the not just the the banking relationships, the monetary relationships about what BRICS is about, but also all the other relationships that go with those countries, right? They have military to military, they have economic relationships, they have trade deals, they’ve got people to people exchanges. And just India and China alone represent a third of the population of the planet. Just those two countries. So we we have got to, we’ve got to come to grips with the reality. And frankly, the power that we do still, you know, retain, but we’ll only retain it if we use it discreetly, with great discernment and with extraordinary judgment. But we must look at the world as it is and as it will likely be, you know, in the next, let’s say five years or 10 years, right? I mean, we can project, we can project energy needs and energy costs for the next couple of years. No, without a doubt. And they’ll and they’ll generally be pretty accurate. They’ll be within the window of projection, right? They’ll be within the, or the better way to say it, they’ll be in the band of projection. And that’s just energy. So anyway, India is super important. It is a must, they have to be involved in in the in all these conversations, because I think India is an emerging, emerging global superpower, and as they are. And the other thing about India, the interesting thing I learned recently is that the Indians, and remember, 1.6 billion people, right? They were able to take 200 million people in the last 10 years, 200 million people. That’s that’s two-thirds of the United States of America out of poverty and rise them out of poverty, where they are now, you know, earning a what’s called a triple P or a purchasing price parity that’s that’s on scale with with somebody who can actually now raise a family in India, right? 200 million people. So the Indians are not, you know, they’re bright, they’re smart, they’re they’re they’re they look at India first. And I think that’s that there’s a message here to President Trump. It’s America first. You know, let’s focus on America first instead of spending billions and billions more dollars overseas.

Stu Turley, Energy News Beat Host [00:23:31] I I like the way you think, General Flynn. I know we only got a few more minutes here, but I got a question for you from one of our readers. General Flynn, in 1987, the U.S. DCO 4th Battalion, 8th Cav, 3rd Armored Division won the NATO tank gunnery competition for the first time. What was the strategic impact important of this event and influence did it have on U.S. Foreign policy? If I remember right, that was when after we sold a bunch of Abrams tanks.

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:24:01] Well, that’s a pretty cool that’s a pretty cool, you know, honor for whoever that is, because 1987 was probably one of the it was the height of our military. It was the largest military that we had since World War Two. Now we had 500,000 combat troops, not to mention staffs, but combat troops over in Europe. So, you know, fourth of the eighth or the third AD, Cav to get that honor is a pretty damn is a is a really pretty amazing.

Stu Turley, Energy News Beat Host [00:24:28] I came in from F C Scott Donaldson and he was a master gunner during the competition.

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:24:33] Yeah, so he’s really good, man. That guy, that guy, you know. Isn’t it cool? Oh, that is very cool. And and you know, good good on on Donaldson for achieving that. And and you know, here he is still talking about it. So it was a big deal to him. And I guarantee when he won, when he went over there at that level of competition, believe me, his unit loved it. You know, and there’s a whole bunch of he’s listening. He knows this. A lot of guys, a lot of guys got medals for that for that win. They did you know, some some troop commander, some you know, operations officer, some somewhere, battalion commander, some squadron, they all got medals because of his because our victory.

Stu Turley, Energy News Beat Host [00:25:10] And we sold a lot of tanks because of that, Victory. Another question for you came in from Mike Umbro. And the national security risk with California refineries being 10% of U.S. Refinery capacity and 30 major military installations in the state, Valero’s Valencia refineries about to close. We’re about to lose 20% of California’s refining capacity. We just had the Chevron have a fire, which was rumored to even be a drone hit. I don’t, I can’t verify that, but holy smokes, Batman, if it was a drone hit, that’s 40% of the jet fuel for Southern California. This is a national crisis.

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:25:50] Yeah. So yeah, I know we wanted to touch on fifth generation warfare.

Stu Turley, Energy News Beat Host [00:25:55] Yes, and I I know we’re running out of time.

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:25:57] Yeah. So let me let me answer the question using that. Okay. Okay. And and you know, we we talk about this, which is also another best selling book, which is the citizen’s guide to fifth generation warfare introduction to 5GW. People can go take, you know, they can go buy it online and and it helps me, believe me. But this is what I would call gray zone combat or gray zone warfare, right? Okay. And and what you just described about what the the leadership of California is doing. He’s a he’s a radical lefty. I mean, you know, so and he’s also, you know, he’s also play he plays the an inf he’s also involved in information war, you know, and is in his teasing and touting back and forth on on social media. You know, this is Governor Newsom, right? So so, you know, and then the then the whatever the the burning of a refinery, I mean, the the you know, distracking or or making a train go off the tracks in some other part of the country, a fire in a in a forested area, the the shutting down of a communications network in a city. I mean, these are all gray zone activities within the within this type of war that we are waging here in the United States of America, called and it’s defined as fifth generation warfare. So it is a huge national security issue. What you just described that that that California is doing, but it’s on it’s it’s intentional, it’s on purpose. And it’s to say to the president of the United States, you know, what do you kind of what are you going to do about it? Right? What are you going to do about it? Right. And and so, I mean, I read a report this morning about about shale, gas and and oil and other commodities that comes out of shale, right? And about about a 10-page report. And essentially the gist of the whole thing about this is energy capabilities here in the United States of America. The gist is is that we are at risk here in the United States of America if we don’t start to become far more proactive elsewhere in our country, either the contiguous waters that we have or places where we know there are pockets of energy that we could we can continue to discover, right? It’s not just Texas, it’s not just, you know, off the off the coast of wherever, or California. So the president is gonna have to have a massive America first energy summit and and and then plow new ground, because if he doesn’t, and we continue to rely on OPEC, you mentioned OPEC earlier. If we continue to rely on OPEC, then we’re gonna have the price of a barrel of oil, which is always the the you know, the the the sort of what we what we compare, you know, things at, right? It’s always going to be up around probably 70. I mean, under Obama, it was up to like 110, 120. I mean, right now we’re probably I’m guessing right this second, but it’s probably close to $70 a barrel. But I’m telling you, in my in my neighborhood, so I’ll take it down to brass tacks, right? My neighborhood right now. I just filled my gas tank up two days ago, and it actually cost me more to fill my gas tank up. And I don’t have anything big deal. You know, I got a I got a you know, a medium-sized car, but it cost me more money per gallon to fill my gas tank up two days ago than it did six months ago. So and it has it changed much? Well, it was three dollars and seven cents a gallon the other day. Now, if you’re California, it’s probably more like 475 because this California adds another tax to it. But but you see what I’m saying? Like people base their their actions and their behavior. Now I’m talking about grassroots Americans. They base their actions and their behaviors on what it costs to fill their gas tanks up to put food in the table, you know, what is a gallon of milk, what is a dozen eggs, what’s a loaf of bread? I mean, and am I gonna be able you know, am I gonna be able to pay my mortgage on time? And and I don’t feel like we’re we are nine months into this administration. I don’t I don’t feel like that’s changed much. I hate to say it like that. I’m a huge, you know, there’s nobody more in Trump’s camp, but I’m also a person who will speak my mind and say this is what you know, this is what we need. So, you know, and and if I if I were an advisor, you know, he would he would get that kind of advice because it, you know, and that’s and and there’s reasons why I’m there or not there, right? I mean, there’s all kinds of, you know, because people just ask me, why don’t you go in there? Well, because he’s got to decide that. And there’s a big there’s a big element inside of the inside of the GOP that doesn’t want me there because exactly the conversation that I’m having with you Stu is the conversation that I would have it with anybody. I you know, this is not a time for for politics. This is the time for for saving our country.

Stu Turley, Energy News Beat Host [00:30:28] General Flynn, I thank you so much. And I really want you back because we have a lot of unfinished discussions. I mean, I’ve got I’ve got so much that I want to talk to you.

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:30:37] I would like to talk more about because I know you pay a real close attention to energy. And I think I think energy is the commodity, the global commodity that the world is running on right now. And without energy, more of it and and from better places, we can’t have food and we can’t have water. Those are the two other commodities that that are necessities for survival. So I would like to maybe I’ll I’ll come back and use two and and we’ll do this again and maybe maybe drag you into a an energy summit or something that we might be able to pull off in Washington, DC.

Stu Turley, Energy News Beat Host [00:31:10] It would be an honor and I would I would I’d be there in two and a half seconds. And I’ve got a team of experts of folks that we chat with. And Secretary Wright is one of the great guys on the planet. Love him. I’ve interviewed him four times. And how do people get a hold of you? Because I’m a Substack subscriber. I we will have your Substack in the the the show notes. I follow you and hackle you. I almost am a stalker, sir, because I’m always reading everything you got. Oh, General Friends got a tweet. I’m on

Lt General Mike Flynn [00:31:40] People can go to generalflynn.com, generalflynn.com, they can find all kinds of stuff there. You know, because you you you have those books that you talked about. I don’t know what you’re gonna do if you’re gonna be giving them away. Did we give you yeah, did we give you CDs or the D? Yeah.

Stu Turley, Energy News Beat Host [00:31:54] Yes. We’ve got ten of these. We’ve got ten we’ve got ten books to give out. And and so people that are commenting in our sub stack and things will be giving those out. Okay, beautiful. Thank you, Stu. God bless you. God bless you and thank you for your service, sir.