This is one of my favorite topics. ESG. As anyone knows that has seen, or listened, to my podcasts that I am passionate about getting the lowest kWh to everyone on the planet using all forms of energy with the least amount of impact on the environment. The Dispraportantly impacted communities and countries’ best interests are achieved with energy policies.
Boy, it is fun to interview someone with even more passion about ESG and how to give the lowest kWh to the consumers and keep the impact on the environment low. Dr. Andrew Parker gets real heated about the energy crisis discussion.
Watch enjoy, and know that there are people that get worked up about energy. Andrew is an industry thought leader and on the leadership team at Energy Strong. Check out their new website Energy Strong at https://energystrong.com/
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Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:00:00] Oh. Well, you know what? Welcome, today. Today is a fantastic day, because we are at the Energy News Beat podcast and we’ve got a really fun episode today. I’ve got one of my favorite topics, and that’s E we got to take care of our planet. We got to take care of our people and we got to do it responsibly. And we have Dr. Andrew Parker, and he is the ESG. I think the head of ESG ought to fact-check me on this. Enough was enough, Dr. Parker. Welcome. And we are so glad you’re here.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:00:41] I appreciate the invite to be here. I’m really looking forward to the conversation.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:00:45] Oh, man, this is so much fun. I get all excited about taking care of the planet, the disproportionately impacted communities, making sure everybody has the lowest kilowatt per hour in there and oil and gas natural wind. Solar doesn’t matter. We got to do. And you guys have some great you’re over at SPRO. What’s kind of talk about SPF risk if you don’t mind giving me a little bit of background on what SBL is?
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:01:14] Yeah, I think it’s easier to probably tell you what we don’t do because over the years we’ve really evolved to do so much more than what I think SPF started, which was in the laboratory business. And now we really touch the entire hydrocarbon value chain from the wellhead all the way to the refinery. And we do all sorts of services from measurement practices on a well site, calibrating flow meters to collecting samples and doing complex analyzes in the laboratory for product quality testing. We have our own allocation service now that we do, you know, production allocation for various customers and getting more and more into the finished products testing. So we have a fuels laboratory in Arlington, Texas, so we touch, we touch it all
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:02:04] that’s so cradle to grave touching on ESG and the oil and gas industry. And how does that impact the energy industry? I mean, you have to be you said you’re doing everything to everybody, right? Are there other markets that you’re getting?
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:02:18] Yeah. So I mean, oil and gas will always be our core markets, but there’s certainly tangent markets. And part of our ESG strategy, I think, is is to start to branch out into some of those markets where there is a lot of overlapping synergies with markets nearby. Like, for instance, agriculture is a very logical market for us because a lot of the geography overlaps with oil and gas. So there are certainly new opportunities that we’re always looking at and evaluating what makes sense for our business and our strategy going forward.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:02:49] Well, I’ve got a few questions for you, OK? You went to Texas A&M and you’re a Ph.D.. Tell us a little bit about your background in ESG, because that will lead us right back into the rest of the SBI story.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:03:04] Yeah. So it’s it’s kind of a roundabout story. I like to say it found me more than I found it because I went to sue Boulder and got an underground geology and followed that up with my Ph.D. at Texas A&M. And I thought I was going to go into academia. I wanted to be a professor. I thought they had the coolest jobs in the world, right? I mean, you set your own schedule and you get to research what you want to research. And you know, I got there in a few years in which, first of all, going from Boulder, Colorado to College Station Texas is not an easy transition. If you want to talk about being culture shock within your own country, it was quite the transition after four years in Boulder to go to College Station and you know, I was like, What is what is fish camp? What is what are y’all leaders? It was it was almost a foreign culture that we had to acclimate to, plus the heat, and it was wild. You know, fell in love with A&M, but just realized that being a professor was not the career path. But I studied. I studied climate change, right? That’s what I did. I have a Ph.D. in oceanography formally, and my dissertation centered on paleo climates understanding how task climate change right and how that can be placed into context with today’s climate changes. And so, you know, I have this this real extensive background in climate science, and I moved back to Colorado at the end of my degree and I thought, certainly someone wants to hire some new Ph.D. graduate. It’s a hot shot in climate science, and I sat around for about six months, really angry that that was not the case. And finally, this this small little family owned laboratory in Windsor offered me a job that I took and the rest is history. So, you know, going back to ESG, I think with my I’m kind of this this have this unique perspective where I have a very detailed knowledge of climate and climate change. And ESG just kind of is a complimentary passion to what interests me and doing good by the environment, but also promoting the industry that does a lot more good than people think,
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:05:18] Oh, I was not expecting that kind of an answer, and I absolutely loved the whole roundabout twisting in there because that’s very unique. Thank you very much. Yeah, it’s
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:05:28] it was kind of a it’s kind of one of those things where, you know, I actually was really anti oil and gas starting out my PhD. A lot of kids in geology went that oil and gas route and it was like, Man, I don’t I just don’t want to be a part of that right, right? And then I did an internship with Shell in 2013 that opened my eyes to what? Oil and gas companies do, and I realize they’re not really oil and gas companies anymore. They are integrated energy companies that are very much focused on the energy transition even 10 years ago. And so that was really for me what changed my perspective on getting into oil and gas.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:06:16] It’s funny you mention Shell Boy, that thing this week with the activist investor kicking in. I just I was I write for other folks as well, and they said, Hey, what do you think? And I think it’s a mistake. I think that it’s going to do more harm to the shareholders, stockholders and all of the things. Shell will be able to migrate to a true energy company easier because they need to profit from the upstream and keep the chemicals going and everything else. And it’s their response. This is my just my unprofessional opinion, and that is if their ESG efficient to go to green, you think that they would be running their other side of the business to the best they possibly can. So if he peels off the natural gas part and then he peels out all of the other stuff, they’re not going be able to afford to go that way because the wind and solar. And that was what I was writing for these folks. And so I hope I’m on the right track. If you’re.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:07:15] It’s completely counterproductive what happened on Capitol Hill to progress, right? I mean, I wasn’t around in the 70s, so I don’t and I didn’t work for these companies, so I’m not going to sit here and say they didn’t withhold information 50 years ago, but as far as the present day, conversations concerned. Every year, it would be hard pressed to find one oil and gas producer that doesn’t have some kind of climate impact statement on their website, right? We’re just talking on air. Right? Yeah, we were just we had Chris right on the Energy Strong podcast not too long ago, and he said, he said, we know climate change is a thing. We know CO2 emissions are are a problem. It’s not like I don’t understand this whole were hiding the science were misleading the public because it takes about two clicks from the home page of any super major to find their environmental, social governance impact statements, their strategies, their transparency on the topics, their commitments to net zero by 2050. And so to watch what happened on Capitol Hill is so counterproductive to the process. And I’ll get I can get off my I can get off my high horse here on this because now you got me going right? But like, I mean, the oil and gas industry is going to facilitate the energy transition, whether people like it or not. Yeah, right? Whether people like it or not, you can’t make a solar panel or build a Tesla note without oil and gas and why there is not more cross-pollination between oil and gas industry and environmentalists and activists baffles me. But when you see what happened yesterday, it’s no wonder.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:09:10] You know, I’ve I’ve got a nice little research team, and I think about four, four or five months ago, we found out that California was actually using more coal now than they were in the past. And now you take a look at the whole world. Problem started because everybody started printing money for all of the coal it and new power at 20 years of bad energy policy and now turned into a disaster for the ecology. Right. We have a good plan. Let’s use nuclear. Let’s use renewables. Let’s use wind solar. Let’s use everything to get the lowest kilowatt per hour. Save the world. Let’s move the energy that way. You’re going to need both help. You and I are going to get passionate here in just a minute run down the road for solving all the world’s problems right here.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:09:59] Well, but but it really, you know, it just frustrates me because I try to be open minded and see both sides. And sometimes it’s just really hard to to do that because, you know, yeah, California’s a great example. They’re using more coal. They also import the most oil and gas from overseas, where the reality is we there is nowhere in the world. You can get oil and gas produced more responsibly than the United States. And so, you know, like, you know, you add the hypocrisy to yesterday where, you know, the administration asked OPEC to please put out more oil, right? We’re OK. Hey, U.S., I’m going to put bans on the permits, but I’m going to ask OPEC to drill more. And then when they say no, now I come crawling back to the U.S. industry and ask for your help. And then you turn around three weeks later and you grill you, you know, you compare them to big tobacco, it’s like what is going on here? Because yet you can’t know nowhere in the world is it produced more responsibly than in the United States and anything the United States industry should be promoted and encouraged to produce more because ultimately it’s a product. If we don’t produce it, someone else is going to do it, and it’s better for the environment
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:11:13] to do it. In the united national security, Dr. Parker, you brought up just such a great point. And that is that Saudi Arabia and Russia don’t care about us, and we got to get our own what we got to get our own stuff. We can’t be reliant on them. And I do a lousy Putin godfather, by the way. So hey, I’m going to pump all the natural gas and oil. I cannot do that. I sound more something else. But you did hear that Saudi Arabia and Russia are even now looking to form a OPEC for natural gas. Yep. Tell me that isn’t so valuable for us because we’re not going to have the world thing over there. Our natural gas in the U.S. out of the Haynesville go into Cheniere. Going out the gulf is all being born out of Asia and you are dead on, right? Well, I mean, this is cool.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:12:10] Well, yeah, I mean, to your point on natural gas and coal, right? I mean, burning natural gas is about 50 percent less CO2 emissions than coal. Even here I live in Colorado. Even here in Denver and in Colorado, a state that prides itself as being at the forefront of being green and and right. We have all the National and National Renewable Energy Laboratory here, and the electricity generation in Colorado by coal still exceeds the national average. Isn’t that like a mind blowing statistic, right, that no matter what, we’re still? And you touched on it earlier, right? California and the use of coal is actually increasing for the first time in how many years because we’re starving ourselves of of energy and the energy crisis. I mean, as we talk, it’s getting serious, right? Look at what they’re paying for natural gas in Europe and in Asia right now, the premiums and what’s going to happen this winter to people who are paying 20 to 50 percent premiums on the required energy that they need. It feels like there’s no energy transition strategy right now that that people you can electrify the hell out of everything. Yes, cars, grills, houses, I mean airplanes, right? United just made a commitment to buy electric aircraft in twenty twenty nine. And you can electrify at all. But if if what’s the point if you’re still powering those batteries with coal or something else, it just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. And it’s just going to get worse until we have a more coherent energy strategy. And what comes out of COP26 this week and I think will be and in the coming weeks will be really interesting to see what the nations at the table walk away and say. But but the reality is, it probably won’t be anything that we didn’t have an heard before, right?
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:14:08] What’s your take going into this conference through them next week? What do you think is going to happen? And then I’d love to follow up with you afterwards?
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:14:18] Yeah, I mean, I guess I always when politicians come together, I always have low expectations. So I mean, I don’t expect a whole lot, you know? You know, I mean, one of the the biggest emitters in the world, the biggest emitter in the world, China, they’re not showing up, right? So I’m sure they’re going to, you know, though they’re going to reaffirm commitments, they’re going to reaffirm Paris. They’ll come away with some other, you know, newsworthy titles. But at the end of the day, I still don’t think there’s going to be a reasonable strategy set forth. It’s just going to be, you know, hey, we need, you know, 2050, 2050, 2050, we need to be net zero. But I don’t think there’s going to be anything substantive coming out of it. And if there is great, but I hope I’m wrong personally, but I just my expectations are low.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:15:11] You know, it’s kind of funny. I think next week is also OPEC’s meeting in Saudi Arabia. They’re not going to be producing any more because they want the high priced and and so begging for, you know, you mentioned the administration begging for oil is pretty stupid.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:15:29] So, yeah, I think one of the things I’d like to see, I mean, if I had a wish list is I’d like to see more alignment between the policy and some of the standards that are starting to come out. In that businesses are adopting, right, so I’m thinking of Sasabe and TCFD. I’d like to see climate policy alignment with standards because I think that’s where you know, your companies are going to follow these standards. And if those standards are are complementary to what the climate policy is and the goals we have for 2050, I think you’ll start to see real change. But until that happens, and there’s still this disconnect between policy and private companies and what they’re doing, I think it’s going to be hard to to really there’s still going to be that, that fuzzy space.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:16:21] You know, Dr. Burke, those are outstanding points and you brought up about three different things and you talked about Liberty and Chris, right? Your podcast that’s coming out. He is one of the best talkers about energy bringing in, not talking. He believes he’s passionate back and he talks about bringing people out of poverty and his team over. Liberty is flat ESG. They bleed ESG over there. And I love it. But he made his whole team line up with the frac fluid and they all drank it. Now you got to believe in your product when you said, we’re ESG friendly, but you sit back and take a look at the disproportionately impacted communities and all the energy policies you just mentioned have wiped out a lot of our companies and our country. I mean, communities, the disproportionately impacted communities and countries don’t deserve these policies.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:17:16] No, they they don’t and and they need their fair chance to to build infrastructure the way we’ve been able to do it, and Chris, you know, Chris and Liberty, I think a real great example within the industry of how I mean, even before ESG was a thing they’re working on. You know, they have their fleet now, right? And they and I think they speak to, you know, it’s a subject there, a case study in what the rest of the industry is doing, which is you don’t really need policy to push innovation in the space because again, we’re not hiding anything. And the innovation has been in the works for for for years and years. I mean, they were working. They just do that easily this year, right? Because they had ESG pressure, right? If it’s been in the works for years. And so, yeah. Chris, Chris and Liberty, it’s a great company. Chris is such a great advocate for our industry. He has some great experiences and background. I didn’t even know. I mean, he went to MIT. He’s worked on nuclear fusion. He’s spent a lot of time with a lot of different energies, and he’s a great advocate for for the industry.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:18:25] Oh, he is such a cool cat. I really love all the folks over livery. Great, great management, great numbers. When we talk about the technology that you just mentioned with Liberty Technology, coming around the corner is going to be, I think, so critical for clean energy, where you mentioned SBI being so critical into the energy tax base, being able to make that kind of transition. We’re going to have to have energy tech investment heavy in order to make this transition. What are your thoughts on that?
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:19:02] So are you talking like SBL specifically
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:19:05] at you, at anything you want, because
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:19:07] I’m know, I mean, spell, so, you know, spell. I mean, yeah, we’re a digital company and we feel like we’re really well-positioned to be drivers of that because there’s great there’s great technology out there on the market right now, and there’s so many amazing things that you’re going to like. Yeah, right. And I think of that or you think about it. And then the next day you see a headline, someone’s already thought about it, right? And so, you know, I think right now you’re seeing a lot of tech technology come out in the emissions realm, right? Because that’s emissions has all the focus right now, right? Because of climate change. Everyone’s like, we got to figure out how to track our methane. We got to start reporting our GHG emissions. And we got to find ways to to reduce our operation and become carbon free as quickly as we can. That’s getting all to play. I think ultimately down the road, a big thing you’re going to see. It’s already becoming a bit of an issue is water and you’re going to see some real big technology I think come to market in the next few years related to produced water, especially in the West, right? Think about Texas, think about Colorado. Even North Dakota is in a huge drought. And what do you do with the produced water? Do you recycle it? You know, you’re going to see I think water becomes a real big play in the next few years. But as far as emissions goes, you know, Spell, we’re a digital company and we we really think of ourselves as as a not just an offshore company, but we’re in the first tech company and we’re really excited to actually start a partnership with a great emissions technology called Clean Connect A.I., which is in autonomy. It’s really an autonomous H.S., an ESG platform that does continuous emissions monitoring and so much more, right? Gate guard, PPE tank, you know, tank level, noninvasive tank leveling. So it’s going to help people reduce their emissions. It’s going to help people monitor their emissions. It’s going to help their operations be safer for their people, and we cannot be more excited to take it to market.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:21:18] You know what’s cool? You’re just sitting there real environmental, social and governance. The governance part has been driving me nuts. ESG, there’s no accountability without accountability. There is no ESG. Dr. Bart, you have just described accountability.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:21:37] Yeah. Yeah, I mean, but having having the accountability piece, I think, is what I think oil and gas has lacked for just the transparency piece, right, is kind of lacked in recent years. Going back to my conversation with Chris Wright, you know, one of the mistakes the fracking industry made at first was not not sharing what the chemicals they were using to frack were right because it was it was industry trade is what they said. But then it became a mystery to people and people look at things like oil and gas, and you’re drilling this really deep hole and putting a bunch of chemicals in it. It sounds scary, right? So transparency, I think, will go a long way to reinventing and taking back control of the narrative for the oil and gas industry. And that’s what Clean Connect does.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:22:27] You know, it’s kind of funny is the Green Movement has penalized the MP companies, the public and big companies and saying, Hey, if you’re not going green, just like you mentioned, which they’re already trying to do that, but yet they’re panel penalizing them. And so, you know, it seems like there’s a little bit of a hypocrisy with folks that want to go green, but they’re not thinking about that kind of stuff.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:22:50] Well, don’t get me started on my net, my my net zero spiel, because, you know, it’s going right. So the other thing that that gets me going. So what just happened in earlier this year, Shell loses a case in Dutch court that says they’ve got to reduce their emissions by 50 percent by 2030. Crazy number for a company like that, and there’s only one way to do it, and that is sell assets. So what do they do? A few weeks later, they put the Permian up for sale. Yup. Right. So the strategy is not to get it out of the air, it’s get it off the books, right? And that’s what policy. That’s what that’s what policies like that are doing is like we should be encouraging these companies to continue to pursue. Implementation and development of technologies that actually take CO2 and methane out of the air rather than play hot potato through asset acquisition with other producers because those emissions didn’t go away. They’re still there. I think who who bought those, I think it was was a Conoco or someone like that bought them. Those emissions didn’t go away. They’re just on the same thing that happened in in Alaska. BP sold a bunch of assets up there and gave them to help Corp and its get it off the books rather than get it out of the air. And it accomplishes nothing. So for the environment.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:24:24] So clean energy, tech, let’s take all the carbon out, let’s put it back in. Let’s do all those kind of things that’s more important in a good environment that you can measure. Get back to the investors. I mean, that’s exactly your hot button. So I’m sorry for poking you, but you’re fine. I mean that that is cool.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:24:43] Yeah. And again, you know, I mean, that’s why, you know, I think as an organization, we look at ESG and we know that people and producers are going to start to gravitate towards like minded partners, right? So producers have really been in the last few years conscious about ESG and this year obviously hit a fever pitch. OFAC companies, I think, are are still a bit slow to the game. And so we recognize that and really said we want to plant our flag in being partners with our customers as we’ve always use it to help them actually create and implement real change in their operation. And so we’re really excited about the direction we’re headed in the space.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:25:31] You know, when you sit there and take a look at spy your leadership in the ESG and in the market, I want to switch gears a little bit with you and I have enjoyed energy strong for so long. I mean, it is so cool. Energy strong. Can you tell me a little bit about what’s going on over in energy? Strong. It’s such a great organization.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:25:54] Yeah, Energy Strong is an incredible organization that I’ve been really fortunate to be a part of for the last year. I mean, you know, people like Lou Coats and Dustin Case Jack Hamlin, who were really at the forefront at getting energy strong off the ground and really born out of the the Proposition 112 debate in Colorado over safe setbacks and what they’ve built is now approaching 80000 registered members through the website. I think we’re going to crack 80000 followers on LinkedIn this week or next week. And it’s just become such a powerful advocacy tool to really get out. And I think some of what we’re trying to do now is not just rally the base, but extend that olive branch and get some, you know, membership in some some people involved who aren’t necessarily directly related with the industry. And so it’s a great organization to for the industry.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:27:01] And so your new podcast series tell us about what your new series coming at is.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:27:05] Yes. So the new podcast is it’s out. We’ve we’ve done three shows so far. We’ve got some great guests coming. So Chris Wright is joining us here in one of our episode four. We’ve got hopefully a few other people lined up that we’re really excited to talk about. And so myself, Patrick Shower and Kate Galloway are are the hosts. And you know, the whole idea is to just again content generation and having real balanced interviews with people about, you know, topics and highlight the good right like that’s what you really want to do is highlight the good in everything the industry does from not just an energy equity position, but all the good we do environmentally and all the the innovation that’s happening within the industry and all the the people that are like minded in that respect that we enjoy the environment just like the next person. And so bringing that perspective is is what we’re really hoping to accomplish.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:28:08] You know, I heard I got to hear the intros on these, and Kat was doing really well with her first guest and and those was she nervous on our first podcast?
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:28:21] We were all nervous on our first podcast that’s telling you. I mean, that first episode, we probably did the intro like we did it like 10 times, I swear, and it was all very more unnatural than I thought it was going to be. But but that’s you know, hey, episode one right in already, we’re a few a few more episodes under our belt and we’re more comfortable. The chemistry is coming out now and the conversation is more natural. So yeah, but we were all we were all really nervous.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:28:51] Well, I’ll tell you what you you’re actually very smooth, very eloquent, even though you’re from Texas A&M, you know and everything. I’m very surprised that you’re having a problem in that first one.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:29:02] Oh, well, you’re you’re too kind because I hate my voice and listening to it. The first cut, I’m like, I can’t stand this. I hate. I hate how I sound. I felt like I sounded really weird and unnatural. And yeah, the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive, so I appreciate it. But yeah, I felt like, man, I sound so weird. And I guess that’s just part of getting used to hearing yourself talk.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:29:27] Oh, I believe me, I I quit worrying about it. After about the first thousand, you kind of sit there and kind of go, you know, it doesn’t matter. You just have to have fun, get the word out and really spread the energy. A strong word. And the FBI, what’s coming up around the corner for energy? Strong.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:29:46] Well, we’re hitting the winter months, we’ve got some we’ve got some in-person events that we’re planning for early next year. We just finished, you know, really the big event we just finished the year with was the energy strong golf tournament in Colorado. I’m sure we’ll do that again next year. So we’ve got we’re working on a few few symposium, you know, in-person events, some happy hours. Those have been real successful rallies for for the industry. And then we’ll see what else kind of we come up with.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:30:17] Oh, and what about SBI? What’s coming around the corner for SBI
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:30:21] Spell
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:30:22] SBI Sorry, my bad.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:30:24] Sorry, no worries. What’s coming around the corner? Well, we’re really excited to launch Clean Connect and bring that. You know, that’s our entry point into the the emissions and methane detection space. And then leveraging that technology and some other strategic opportunities that we have going on right now, we’re really excited to continue to pursue our our market strategy in that in that space and bring some additional services and innovation to our customers as they’re looking for solutions to manage their their ESG data, their reporting and and other other tasks.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:31:05] How would people we’re going to put all your contact information in the show notes, and we’re actually going to transcribe this so we can read it on the road and all of those things. Oh, great. We don’t want to have any, any direction. But if they were sitting there and people were wondering about accountability and and getting everything done, we’ll try to get you all that kind of information and make sure that they get ahold of you and everything else. So we’ll also have a way for people to ask you questions and send you information that Dr. Parker last word to you. Let us know your last thoughts, and I really appreciate your passion for what we’re talking about. It’s really, yeah,
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:31:47] well, I appreciate the invite. And look, I mean, I got to give a plug to to your group as well because you guys have been doing all the all the promotional work, the the teases and all of that that we’re happy to be partnered with your team as well and appreciate the support of the podcast because it has certainly enhanced the delivery the first few episodes. And so can’t wait to keep working with you guys on that more and more. So, you know, yeah, we’re we’re really excited about where we’re headed as a company. Energy Strong is is really excited about where we’re headed with our advocacy efforts in the in the next year and just appreciate the time to talk. And I love talking about anything, anything climate and energy related as you can’t, as you could probably see, gets me going. So I’d love to talk about it.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:32:34] I’ll tell you what again, I hope to visit with you again very shortly and don’t tell your gang anything that when we’re producing and recording, once we hit the video and everything else, we’re going to keep blueberries.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:32:47] So we we were actually talking about that. We definitely already have some good blueberry materials that will be a lot of fun. I’ll look forward to that.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:32:56] Hey, I’m going to follow up. This is going to air next week and we will be keeping you posted on everything and look forward to visiting with you. Thank you.
Andrew Parker, PH.D – SPL Inc. [00:33:04] I appreciate it. Thanks so much. This was fun.
Stu Turley, CEO, Sandstone Group [00:33:07] Oh.
