ENB sits down with the War Room Media CEO – We have fun talking energy hypocrisy – but the consumer always gets it in the drive through

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO of War Room Media talks with us about how hypocrisy is a problem for everyone in the energy space – Oil, gas, and renewables are all not helping the consumers. Let’s have at least some fun talking about the energy crisis.

It seems that the consumers and people trying to pay their bills are caught in the trap of inflation, an energy crisis, and a commodities shortage. Ryan Ray has an opinion on everything, and he brings his A-game today.

Thank you Ryan for stopping by our ENB podcast, Stu.

Ryan Ray can be contacted on his LinkedIn profile at : https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanraysr/

Ryan’s website is: https://www.ryanraysr.com/

The following is an automatic transcription from the interview. We disavow any errors unless they make us funnier or even in my case look better.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:15:53] There’s a hypocritical standard that’s going on, and I want to make sure this is clear. We need to go to more renewables in the long term. We have to get a lower carbon foot print period end of that one. We all agree on that. But how we get there is the adult in the room question. We got to get there with nuclear. We got to get there with renewables. We’ve got to get there. We’re going on gas. Great. OK, try the hypocritical thing for total energy. Is that how you say it? Kind of like Tar Jay or Target?

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:16:31] OK. You had me at hotel. They’ll tell you, I’m with you.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:16:35] They just published out there saying that their move to greener will be funded by their oil and gas. Go, figure that one on how how’s that for a little bit hypocritical going on?

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:16:51] But do they have a this hotel? They have a trading desk, don’t they?

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:16:54] Yeah. I mean, there they do, said they were going to get funded by their right.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:16:59] So here they hear these guys are trading their training bills on oil and gas. They’re not drilling. They’re trading on the commodity price. Yeah. Well, if you if you’re so against it, don’t trade it. They just don’t trade it, right? That’s not revolutionary thinking like that, like that’s that’s if you hate it, so bad. Don’t trade it.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:17:20] Well, you know, you got to admit the engine number one, at least they put their money where they believe. Yeah, right or right or wrong thing, right?

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:17:31] Well, OK, but here’s the thing, here’s the question if you’re Exxon to tell Shell BP and all you’re doing is making announcements about going green are greener, greener, less and less production. But you’re trading desk knows that you’re going to do this and those you’re going to reduce what’s going to happen to the price? Yeah, it’s going to go up. Right, which means that you potentially influencing the market so that you can make money off those trades. Yeah.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:17:58] In.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:18:00] Yeah. I mean, am I correct?

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:18:03] I think you’re right. And and we were kind of laughing a little bit about this, the pioneer saying that they will be whacked by the investors that puts it back into this shale. The money is going to be for investors, even if they’re saying that they have to go to a greener burn. They’re going to want tax breaks because taxes are going through the roof. So the funds that are out there for the independent operators that you can get oil and gas tax deduction bonds, pretty good little deal right now.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:18:40] So here’s a question for you. I’ve got a group that I’m talking to. We’ll see if I sign a deal with them and they claim to have a 100 percent, 100 percent net zero emission drilling process. OK. So from start to finish, it’s a 100 percent net zero. I’m looking into the material now. Let’s presuppose that they are correct and they’re rejecting the CO2 in bitcoin mining and they have all these things. If you go to Pioneer Day Pioneer, we can do one hundred percent. One hundred percent net zero. Will that change people’s willingness to invest? Because if not, then it’s not about that.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:19:17] I would agree with that philosophy. I would like to see the report and how they’re doing it, because in order to be net zero, they actually have to be negative on their bringing the CO2 in because no matter what you do, you are going to have CO2 leakage in the pipe, in the transportation, in the trucks being used in all of these things. So how do you get carbon neutral when you’ve got all of these emissions that you’re trying to reduce? Leaving Iraq is one of the best ones. It’s out there and they use an electric fleet. Yeah. How do you generate electricity?

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:20:01] Right, right? Yeah. Well, OK, you let the facts. Do you let the facts? Part of part of what they’re doing, I think, is they’re wanting to plant agricultural aspect that that absorbs the CO2 as well. So because that I think that gets the access. So they Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, listen, listen, don’t get mad at me. I missed you. I’m just telling you what they’re telling me.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:20:25] Where we can see very clearly is carbon neutral.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:20:28] Since 2007, if Google had said, I

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:20:31] can say it. Where does that come from? I saw that just the other day and I was like, Right, yeah, right,

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:20:38] right, right. Yeah, all those employees that you make come to work for 40 hours a week for the decade and a half. Oh yeah, they were that carbon neutral. Yes.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:20:49] And I identify as a thin person

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:20:52] me as smart.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:20:53] So I’m in trouble because I’m dumb and fat.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:21:01] Well, that’s what we call the show.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:21:03] Maybe the Senate, laurel and hardy. All right. We’re going to have to arm wrestle which ones then?

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:21:10] Well, you probably got me there. Oh, no, I haven’t. But I have developed.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:21:14] Do you know how much I want to follow along in your footsteps, Ryan?

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:21:19] You don’t. You don’t make that mistake.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:21:21] I got code just to be like Ryan Rick. OK. I swear I smell so bad when I got COVID. All I could lay there is in the fetal position going, I’m like, Ryan Rey, I’m watching you.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:21:36] Well, you know, did you did you do what I did and go get the antibodies infusion?

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:21:41] I didn’t need to.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:21:43] Oh, oh, you’re just that tough.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:21:45] I only missed a day and a half of work and that was a Sunday. So oh wow.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:21:51] You better me. I went, I went. I had it for like two days and then went, got the antibodies infusions and I was back going again. I get like, I call it Daniels use, like I felt like the nose, you know, you put on the gantlet. You’re like, Oh,

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:22:03] that’s yeah, I was. I’m in that. I’m going to give a shout out to my doctor, Dr. Chalmers. And he fixed me up with some formula that is his concoction of COVID natural things that he’s got a concoction for. And it was the reason that I was knocked down to a day and a half unbelievable. Now I felt I had to sleep 12 hours. I could only work 12 hours a day and then sleep 12 hours. It was hard. But I’ll tell you, it was Dr. Chalmers and his wellness stuff that got me through it.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:22:40] Well, Dr. Chalmers, you should respond to this podcast. It sounds like

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:22:44] Asia. I’m going to send them this note. Yeah, it is. I swear I’m as I’m as big. It’s been almost as big as you know you and Dr. Thomas or who? I thought we should

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:22:57] have a podcast. Dr. Chalmers in the Bum. Yeah, it’s me. Made him get out here just for you.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:23:06] I’m going to have to send him a copy of this, but I guarantee you, well, health and wellness is going to be more critical than ever before, and so I know people will get you hooked up with those kids.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:23:21] Well, you know, it’s I’m glad you point that out, because that’s one of the things before we get Kobe, my wife and I were talking about, which is, um, put all the political stuff aside for half a second. Hmm. One thing we do know is a as a hefty boy myself is is that the less heft you carry on a daily basis, the West, the less you look like a whale, OK? The more you dwell yourself, the more you d-wil yourself, the better your chances of survival are. And so perhaps a well, like myself, a purveyor of oils do not have to consider to go to this a shark. You know, I’m going to be a minnow. Maybe a shark, a large shark, a great white shark, OK? And it will still go from well to shark. That’s that’s what I’m trying to go to right for.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:24:05] Our listeners in the one great podcast that I’ve had the only one out of the 700 that I’ve done you, you were kind of alluding that you couldn’t say oil. Well, our transcriber actually came up with whale. So we were drilling whales. You just said another one here just a second ago, and you mispronounce it again as well, but it was even better. Is that going to surprise you with this one? It was the re-ly. What I say,

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:24:42] what I did wrong. Listen, I can’t speak. I’m not a speaking person and not a person. I’m not a speaking person that’s having a good phrase, OK? I put out a tweet this morning that you should learn poetry that was mainly for myself, people who cannot put together sentences or phrases or words, meaning talking myself. And I go on your shows

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:25:01] and

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:25:02] you’re like, Hey, slow Joel, talk. It’s like dance monkey. You just kind of poking with a stick. I see why you like Mike. I did

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:25:08] so much. So your

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:25:09] comedic value.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:25:11] I need to give a shout out to you because I enjoy the wide breadth of your your content. And I don’t want to admit it, but I really do like your the way you look at things, even though you are an independent presidential candidate, I would vote for you in two and a half seconds, and I’m going to be your Ministry of Defense right now.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:25:34] Oh, it’s due to slower than the nukes, baby. Oh, nuclear for sure.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:25:42] No way. We should all get along. I know, and I don’t ever want to hurt anybody. I I really believe in peace.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:25:54] But you, like nuclear scientists, are clear you don’t want to hurt anyone, but you’re pro-nuclear.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:26:01] Big nuclear power plants, I work with me here. Oh, sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:26:09] You with the Minister of Defense. I didn’t know I was like, Okay, well, it’s, you know,

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:26:15] we had to put in the nuclear, the defense and the energy in the same room. We’d solve the whole problem.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:26:21] Here we go. There we go. Minister of Defense Stuart Turley.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:26:24] All right, Ryan. Give me a year and better who we need to give everybody a shout out for that. But tell me what’s coming around the corner for Ryan?

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:26:34] Well, in about 55 minutes, I’ll be on Energy Week with Dr. Alan Ward. Nice to see here. Um, this week I recorded a podcast inside the War Room last week with Representative Kevin Brady.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:26:48] Oh, nice.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:26:50] Yeah, I’ve got Benjamin Friedman from.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:26:52] Did you say Tom Brady? You got Tom Brady?

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:26:55] Yeah, I wish. I wish Ben and I will be. We’re back with bringing the closers. So we used to have a show called Bringing the Closers. We talk about sales and marketing stuff that’s back, so bring the closers. And then we’re live Thursday at 3:00 with Don’t let the facts.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:27:10] So you want me on that show?

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:27:12] Come on, Stu.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:27:12] Anytime anything you do is bring in the closers is a much higher compliment, but you need to have the show, bring in the clowns. And that’s where I belong. It could do that

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:27:24] would do me, you’re the doctor.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:27:27] Anyway, Brian, I’d like to reach all your contacts will be in the show notes. And again, I’m your second biggest fan beside yourself. So again, say hi and everybody should follow you.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:27:40] I love me. Some me.

 

Stu Turley, CEO Sandstone [00:27:41] So, oh, I’m a legend in my own mind. What happens when I podcast host Get Together? I do much more than life.

 

Ryan Ray, Presidential Candidate, CEO, War Room Media [00:27:51] Well, thanks again for having me on, Stu. I appreciate you. Let me stick your content again, making me sound smart. And so it’s good to be on. And look, I think we missed last month. Look forward to next.

 

 

 

 

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