ENB # 100 Jeremy Gottlieb, Co-Founder and President of ComboCurve, stopped by the podcast. We cover ESG and business startup trials on the way to success

Episode #100 of the ENB podcast. A cool milestone for the ENB podcast, and we have a great guest to celebrate. Jeremy Gottlieb, Co-Founder and President of ComboCurve talked right before we started filming the podcast. Jeremy’s eyes lit up when he talked about his employees and the start of the unbelievable success that ComboCurve has had.

This was an absolute blast talking with him as we covered some key points in the oil and gas, ESG, and business issues surrounding startups.

Thank you for stopping by the podcast, and congratulations on being the #100th guest on my podcast. – Stu

Jeremy Gottlieb, CFA, CPA

Connect with Jeremy on his LinkedIn HERE

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Stuart Turley: [00:00:03] Hey, good morning, everybody. Today is not just a great day. It’s a wonderful day because I get to do one of my most favorite things in the world and I get to interview an energy executive. [00:00:12][9.6]

Stuart Turley: [00:00:14] My Name’s Stu Turley, president, CEO of the Sandstone Group. And I’ve got Jeremy Gottlieb. And I mean, Jeremy, you’re with Combo Curve, and I absolutely have to give them a little bit of inside baseball because I love combo gear. I had Arman, your president and CEO, your CEO,. [00:00:32][17.2]

Stuart Turley: [00:00:33] And I mean, it was little embarrassing because I was given too many hugs and everything else about combo curve. [00:00:38][5.7]

Stuart Turley: [00:00:39] But we’re going to have fun chatting about you as the president. Thank you, Jeremy, for stopping by. [00:00:44][5.2]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:00:46] Thanks for having me on. I’m excited to be here. [00:00:47][1.7]

Stuart Turley: [00:00:49] Well, we were really enjoying our chit chat before the show here. And you’re the president. [00:00:53][4.6]

Stuart Turley: [00:00:54] But you said you like to be the Wizard of Oz, the guy behind the curtains, the guy doing that. So tell us, did you and Arman start a combo curve or tell us how you got interested in this? [00:01:09][14.2]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:01:10] Sure. So I was I was leading the finance team at Deep Gulf Energy, and we’re in the process of selling our business to Cosmos and so I was looking at kind of what I wanted to do from a next Steps perspective and one of our mutual friends introduced us. [00:01:28][17.9]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:01:28] Arman had a Spotfire prototype of an auto forecasting and economics tool, and we were talking about it. And I said, you know, he said he he hated Aries. I said, Well, great. I don’t really like Iran very much either because I had no visibility into what everything looked like I have to sit behind our reservoir engineer and the engineer to try to understand what’s going into the models, and they didn’t give me access to it. [00:01:55][26.6]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:01:55] So I said, Is this something that I’d get access to or realign from vision perspective? And and so, yeah, it was a meeting of the minds. And so a month later I left golf and went out and we went on the fundraising trail. So that was kind of how it started. [00:02:13][17.8]

Stuart Turley: [00:02:14] Wow. You know, that’s that is a true dream scenario. And on your LinkedIn, I just want to give a shout out to Arman. I had so much fun with Arman on when he was on the podcast just a while ago. [00:02:27][12.2]

Stuart Turley: [00:02:28] He and I had 500 LinkedIn Connect joint connections. I’ve never had 500 connections with anybody before you, and I’ve got 286. That’s pretty good. Vermont did both. I mean, that. [00:02:43][15.6]

Stuart Turley: [00:02:44] Would you show on 50 million Series B financing on your LinkedIn? Tell us about that. That’s pretty darn cool. [00:02:50][5.9]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:02:51] Yeah. And then we’ve raised around over $65 million to date between our series, our series rounds, series A, series B in our seed funding. So yeah, we, we,. [00:03:02][11.7]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:03:04] We launched the product in May 2020 and which was a challenging market but had a lot of success and so we’re able to do our series A in July of 2021 and then did our Series B, we did our first close in January of 2022, so we were able to quickly launch and scale business. [00:03:23][19.7]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:03:24] And yeah, we’ve been fortunate to have great investors The Rice guys seeded the company in 2018 and then we were able to bring on board some some larger investors like Dragoneer and came in the series A and and Bessemer Venture who came in Series B. [00:03:41][17.3]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:03:41] So we have just a fantastic group of supportive investors that have a a long term view of the of the energy space in our software space. So we’ve got a lot of a lot of exciting opportunities ahead of us and are here for a long run. [00:03:56][14.3]

Stuart Turley: [00:03:57] Well, Jeremy, what were some of the tough times coming in? Because no business get started without tough times, right? [00:04:02][5.5]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:04:03] Yeah, I think the toughest time was launching in really in 90 different oil prices and when you have software developers that, you know, initially recruiting software developers, I’ll guess I’ll take that up in 2018 was really challenging,. [00:04:19][15.9]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:04:20] Saying, Hey, we have this awesome idea, here’s our Spotfire platform. And by the way, you know what a barrel of oil is? Do you know what a MTF of gas is? They had no clue. There’s two random guys messaging them on LinkedIn. We’re sending a thousand messages every at least a week to people just to get them into the into the final so we can interview them. [00:04:42][22.4]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:04:43] And and and we’re telling them we have this grand vision we’re going to build a huge company and we’re going to kill these archaic software platforms that they have no clue what they’re even building they’re just like, okay, you guys sound really excited and confident. [00:04:57][13.9]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:04:57] So we finally got a few people to to buy into the vision without really knowing too much about it, other than these guys are crazy and insane, but they sound like they know what they’re probably talking about, so let’s give it a shot. [00:05:11][13.8]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:05:12] So we were able to recruit the software developers early on, but as we kind of progressed, it was it got darker when oil prices started going down and down and down to negative oil price and and they’re all keeping track of the markets. [00:05:27][14.6]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:05:27] I mean, they’re all looking at everything and during go ahead and saying, guys, what are we going to do here? And we said, just focus on developing really quickly and we’ll go ahead and sell the product. So that’s kind of the view of those challenges is the early times. [00:05:43][15.8]

Stuart Turley: [00:05:44] Well, I’ll tell you a little inside baseball, Jeremy. And when Ahmad and I had the privilege of seeing Combo Curve from a user standpoint. [00:05:55][10.7]

Stuart Turley: [00:05:57] And we were solving problems for energy companies and we were taking combo care, taking the data from the well pads and everything else, doing financial projections and so it was saving me time, money and everything else. [00:06:13][16.4]

Stuart Turley: [00:06:13] So I’m a combo curve kind of fan, looking from the fan from the customer side in and then my guys were sitting there working from the button, pushing side out to the investors and I mean, I am such a combo curve kind of fan, so I’m over here getting excited about Combo, so that’s kind of unfair. Fair be interviewed by a guy like that. [00:06:35][22.2]

Stuart Turley: [00:06:36] But when we’re talking about your people, tell us about your people because you light it. I like the product. You know, I’m over here going, There you go. But you light up about your people. Tell us about you. [00:06:48][11.9]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:06:48] And I mean, we’ve been so fortunate to recruit a really great group of talented folks across all aspects of the organization, from development to product to sales and marketing and customer success and security. [00:07:07][18.6]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:07:07] I mean, it takes a, you know, a really large team to go through and build build a world class product. Cloaked in a platform that saves people time and money and allows them to make better investment decisions on a consistent basis. [00:07:21][13.5]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:07:21] So yeah, when we talk about staying behind the scenes, I just love giving the opportunity and seeing all the people internally be able to grow and give presentations. We’ve got a great team that does fantastic presentations around how we’ve integrated carbon with the reserves process and built out, you know, we’re multiproduct company now with the Carmel Carbon, which was incredibly exciting that we launched in November of this past year. So that’s been really successful. [00:07:51][30.1]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:07:52] And just seeing the team develop and grow because a lot of people that came in, they’ve never worked at a software company before. [00:08:00][7.4]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:08:00] A lot of us are oil and gas experts and we come with deep vertical knowledge and transferring that and transforming that into execution from a software company. So it takes a lot of development and and a lot of growth personally. So it’s it’s just exciting to see that across the team and everybody stepped up because we’ve scaled we added 90 full time employees over the past around 12 months from where we were, so that more than double the team size. [00:08:28][27.5]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:08:29] So it’s just been an incredible growth trajectory and it’s taken a lot of everybody’s energy and resources to get there. So it makes me proud to see what we’ve accomplished so quickly. You know, getting to over 260 plus clients in around just over two, two and a half years. [00:08:44][15.3]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:08:45] And so, you know, I’ve looked at a lot of other software companies in the energy tech space, and we’re one of the few that have been able to scale. And it’s been some simple things that have helped get us there. [00:08:55][10.0]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:08:55] But it’s all about the people. And so because the people build the software and and the people support the project and we have the best of both worlds, which has been great. [00:09:05][10.1]

Stuart Turley: [00:09:06] One of the cool things I want to give a shout out to some of your employees, and that is when we were going through this, Michael, who was working on one of the projects,. [00:09:15][8.9]

Stuart Turley: [00:09:17] Your customer support engineer, were dead on closely with Michael. And I mean, we were stunned to get that kind of support. [00:09:26][9.5]

Stuart Turley: [00:09:27] And then Michael was cool enough that he also our mom got on the phone with a end user that was before anything else, and he was checking out how his people and how the software was doing. [00:09:40][12.3]

Stuart Turley: [00:09:41] That to me is really good commitment. [00:09:43][2.5]

Stuart Turley: [00:09:44] I mean, I’ve seen from customer service side and I’m well, that was when it was early on they were trying to integrate into Wolfpack on that one and everything else. [00:09:55][10.9]

Stuart Turley: [00:09:56] So I got to see it from customer service side. That’s kind of cool. [00:10:01][4.9]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:10:01] But it’s, it’s, it’s really important. That’s how you go in early on. It’s not like we had the best sale made 2020. We still had a lot of development going on and so the way to be, the way to be competitive,. [00:10:14][13.2]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:10:15] You can either have the best product, but if you don’t have the support to, to, to give to that great product, you’re not going to be successful and early on we saw that, you know, so I was early on in May 2020, so from May 20 to December 20, I was our sales customer success, customer support, our finance, accounting, marketing, h.r. It was a tremendous amount. [00:10:43][27.8]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:10:44] And by the time from may 20 to december 20, we signed 50 companies up, and it was just me and then I had we had one sales person with me, but I was any ticket that came in, it was me on the phone at 2 a.m. in the morning on Saturday,. [00:10:58][14.4]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:10:59] Taking a call, jumping on understanding what’s happening and if it was something serious you know, I paid the team at 2 a.m. in the morning, like, guys have got to get it. Get up out of your bed. I made my bed and I had two kids at home. [00:11:11][12.0]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:11:12] I had a I had a two year old and then an and then it was like a one month I had newborn. I was literally on the phone in the hospital from both my sick first child. It was my second child and the second child I was on the phone going through economic modeling with with with a guy who’s now at AIG and going through ownership and making sure that the models were done right. [00:11:40][27.8]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:11:41] And so I quickly realized that being the best at customer support and also having the best product, and we both we all realize that that would help us scale really quickly and early on. If you don’t if you have a few gaps in the product, you’ve got to do something the best in customer support was the best in that area, which helped us bridge the gap until we got more maturity from the product side. [00:12:05][24.2]

Stuart Turley: [00:12:06] Has one of the cool stories I’ve ever heard. But I want to ask you real quick question. Are you still married? Because I think my wife would absolutely shoot me in the knee if I. I did all that, so never mind. [00:12:17][11.0]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:12:19] But I am still married. She’s been super supportive. If I hadn’t had the full support, she said, If you don’t do this now. So we said, When I left you because I had a four month old at home. And so it was and she was working full time. She ended up leaving her job as a prosecutor and so it was all on my shoulders in 2019 and 2020 to go ahead and make sure that this was successful. But, you know, it required 100% support and buy in from her in order to take the business and and be fully dedicated. [00:12:54][34.5]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:12:54] So she’s she’s been, you know, taking care of that. Honestly, I would much prefer working 80 to 100 hours a week than taking care of her job is much harder than my job by multiples. [00:13:05][10.5]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:13:07] And we just had twins too. So we have four children right now. It’s That Soon. [00:13:10][3.6]

Stuart Turley: [00:13:10] Congratulations [00:13:10][0.0]

Stuart Turley: [00:13:15] That is so cool [00:13:15][0.2]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:13:15] I have. The better have the better side of Barbie right now. [00:13:18][2.9]

Stuart Turley: [00:13:19] Oh, that is now. That’s just really cool. uhmm.. [00:13:22][3.2]

Stuart Turley: [00:13:23] Now, as a prosecutor, you can’t get away with anything at home, can you. [00:13:27][3.8]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:13:28] Know I don’t win arguments This she she’s better trained and I am at meeting just the courtroom experiences much better negotiator and than I am. [00:13:39][11.2]

Stuart Turley: [00:13:40] Well, I’ll tell you what. You and I are also chitchatting about Elon. Before we did, I can you know, I’m sitting here thinking as he bought Twitter and he’s in there coding with these guys. [00:13:49][9.2]

Stuart Turley: [00:13:50] You can’t he nobody’s pulling any wool over his eyes. So you’re going to be the next Elon of software for oil and gas companies what do you think? [00:14:00][10.4]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:14:02] That’s great. I love that. I love. Can I keep it so I keep those. [00:14:05][4.0]

Stuart Turley: [00:14:06] Oh, yeah. I won’t even charge you for it. [00:14:09][2.1]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:14:09] I like that. [00:14:10][0.8]

Stuart Turley: [00:14:11] Confidence, because your eyes light up when you’re talking about your p your coding, but yet you’re over there doing the customer service on the phone. That’s how you get to success. I wish people would understand that. [00:14:25][14.9]

Stuart Turley: [00:14:26] I don’t. I go into some restaurants and the owner walks by and that’s not how you get people back. I mean it. Now let’s go to your combo ESG combo. Carbon. [00:14:41][15.3]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:14:42] Carbon? [00:14:42][0.0]

Stuart Turley: [00:14:43] Yep. [00:14:43][0.0]

Stuart Turley: [00:14:43] Thank you. I know you’d know what it was, but there is no ESG without accountability and it just drives me nuts that people go out there and in other parts of the world, they’ll go, I know, meet some ESG. They can’t even spell ESG. I mean, and they’re trying to say that they know what’s going on. [00:15:07][23.8]

Stuart Turley: [00:15:08] Tell us about combo carbon and why it came out and then what it is. [00:15:12][4.7]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:15:13] Sure. So what we saw is an opportunity anything that you work on from a reserves perspective or development planning perspective has an ESG impact and an emissions impact to it. [00:15:26][12.2]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:15:26] So what we saw, we started with the core of every energy company, which is reserves and economics and then we saw an opportunity to expand and that companies were taking emissions significantly more seriously. [00:15:40][14.1]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:15:41] So we saw that as an opportunity to expand out into the carbon space. So what we released was any time you change your development plan or different forecast that impacts your CO2 emissions, it impacts different emissions across the board. [00:15:55][13.7]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:15:56] And so that’s been integrated together with the only tool there’s a lot of carbon accounting tools in the market, but for oil and gas reserves and emissions are inextricably linked together. And in order to make investment decisions and decisions related to moving to net zero over time requires that constant iteration. [00:16:15][19.6]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:16:16] So that was a challenge that we saw and that was the opportunity that we that we took advantage of from a market perspective to be able to make life easy for everybody, to make those decisions on a granular level, on the facilities and, well, base level versus at a high level, right? So that was we released it in November and it’s just been incredibly successful and we’re really excited about that because. [00:16:40][24.3]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:16:41] The energy space is not going away at all and it’s mission critical and to the world. There are a lot of countries that are burning wood and coal and much more high intensity carbon intensity products in order to generate electricity when they could be using natural gas and other more efficient fields like oil for the car. [00:17:04][23.3]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:17:05] So we see a very long run, a long run impact for we have to have oil for a long period of time. It’s not going away. In fact, coal demand has increased if you’ve seen more recently. [00:17:17][12.2]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:17:18] So any infrastructure changes take time.so it’s more of how do we reduce the emissions of our current operations in a meaningful way that reduces the impact to the environment and allow people that are energy poor to have access to cheap, reliable energy. [00:17:36][17.7]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:17:36] And so I see our industry is so mission critical to the world and we are making a great stride towards, you know, a lot of the companies are pushing and implementing a lot of great things across the board in order to reduce their footprint in the world so it’s really exciting for our space right now. [00:17:55][18.3]

Stuart Turley: [00:17:56] I think what you just hit all every single one. I’m sorry for getting excited again, but you just hit every single one of my heart because I believe that the everyone on the planet deserves lowest cost kilowatt hour to raise them out of poverty, and we don’t. Hey,. [00:18:12][16.7]

Stuart Turley: [00:18:13] We need when we need solar, we need nuclear. I don’t care. Let’s get them the lowest cost kilowatt per hour with the least amount of environment, negative environmental impact and again,. [00:18:22][9.4]

Stuart Turley: [00:18:23] We cannot print money to put renewables in and then expect it to have low kilowatt hour. Natural gas is really, really, you know, why is there such a big problem? And you’re nailing down the biggest problem, Jeremy, and that is education. [00:18:39][16.3]

Stuart Turley: [00:18:41] If you’re going out with combo carbon and going out and educating people that, hey, by the way, we can prove that our oil and gas and our natural gas is clean and cleaner than coal, you know, I mean, my goodness, that’s the number one thing. Don’t you think that education, that natural gas, those reserves, lowering inflation, I mean, you just chink, chink chink… [00:19:07][26.7]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:19:09] Totally. And there’s a few things related to the clean tech that I don’t think we have good parity and understanding in terms of what the total impact is. Right? [00:19:20][10.7]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:19:20] Because there are in Africa, you have children mining for the for for all this minerals and special. You know, so that’s that’s something from a social perspective that needs to be measured where we have high paying jobs that support a workforce that can let you know that that lifts people out of poverty. So I think that’s really critical. And also just understanding the full cycle carbon emission,. [00:19:47][27.4]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:19:48] I mean, mining or for those minerals, it’s it’s high intensity. What do you think they’re using? They’re using gas powered vehicles in order to mine lithium and everything else, in order to put it into the to the battery packs. [00:20:03][15.1]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:20:04] So it’s and then you’ve got the solar farms and the wind farms. You know, they’ve changed the climate. So if you look at some of the solar farms. [00:20:13][8.4]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:20:14] If they they did an analysis, if they put a solar farm across, forget where it was in the Sahara Desert, what it would they modeled it out that it would completely alter the entire environment there by I forget how many degrees, but it was material and so they decided against it. [00:20:32][17.4]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:20:32] So there are a lot of impacts that are not necessarily in gone ahead and marketed from that side from a narrative perspective. So I think our industry has gotten better at marketing. I mean, Tobey Rice has done a fantastic job of marketing and explaining it, explaining how vital natural gas is to the world. [00:20:52][20.2]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:20:53] And then you’ve got the CEO of Chevron, and CNX has been outspoken. Exxon, you know, pioneers. Gosh, I feel like all those folks now are starting to become much more vocal. And and we need to take pride in their industry and let everybody know what’s actually happening because, yeah, it sound oil and gas. [00:21:12][19.4]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:21:14] A lot of people have put a put a very negative spin on it, but it’s so mission critical. They can’t use their cell phones if we didn’t have our industry. So it’s things like that, trying to get people to appreciate where we are, but also think about all the other people that are impacted that don’t have access to it. [00:21:30][16.0]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:21:30] So you’re 100% right. We’ve got to continue pushing Hard marketing because energy poverty to me is a bigger concern. [00:21:37][7.1]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:21:38] The environmental impacts we can do, we can reduce those through technology and understanding what we do from a day to day side of things. [00:21:46][7.3]

Stuart Turley: [00:21:47] But you know what? For being a guy, The Wizard of Oz, behind there, you’re in the magic curtain and everything else and everything else. [00:21:54][7.1]

Stuart Turley: [00:21:55] You’re actually a great spokesperson, Jeremy. So you’re a in that you should you and I are in the saying I’d give you a hug, but fortunately we got zoom between us here. [00:22:03][8.7]

Stuart Turley: [00:22:04] But you know, when we sit back and go, it’s about humanity, stupid. You know it it takes a village to raise me. I mean, an idiot. It takes a village to raise an idiot. Oh, I am. Never mind. We’ll have to cut that one out. Maybe, but no, it’s not. It’s true. [00:22:20][16.1]

Stuart Turley: [00:22:20] So when we sit back and kind of go, Where are you going with Combo Card in the next year? You came out was one of the best things I’ve seen in a long time combo. Carmen is huge. Where are you going? How are you going to top that? [00:22:34][13.6]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:22:35] Yeah, I mean, we we are our goal is to be the operating system for energy companies at the end of the day. Right. With with all of the scheduling, the emissions, the reserves and the economics,. [00:22:47][12.1]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:22:49] There’s additional there’s a lot more things that make and it’s just that process of getting to your cash flows and optimizing from a decision making process faster. So the goal is to be able to streamline all of those processes from an energy company perspective to get to the finish line for what are my cash flows look like, what do my emissions look like? And anything that’s ancillary to that will be built on top of it. [00:23:14][25.3]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:23:14] So there’s a lot of other features coming out, but we’ve still got a tremendous amount to build that we’re building on carbon, a lot more on scheduling and our core platform to continue to enhance it. [00:23:24][10.0]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:23:25] But the goal is to be that big operating system that a good chunk of the company touches when they log in, when when the CEO logs in, they log into Comcast, see where the business is. [00:23:36][10.6]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:23:37] When reservoir Engineer gets up and goes to work, they log into common curve. When production engineer log gets up, logs in the common curve finance team, all a lot of different teams that we touch from just being able to run sensitivities in order to feed into the financial models. [00:23:52][15.3]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:23:52] So that’s that’s the vision of the company. There’s a lot of work to do there, but it’s really exciting because we’ve got a really clear path from the vision perspective. [00:24:02][9.7]

Stuart Turley: [00:24:03] The single pane of glass is just an amazing concept. Back to Elon, he’s going for the single app. [00:24:09][5.5]

Stuart Turley: [00:24:10] You’re going for the single pane of glass in the energy space, right? Wow, that’s pretty darn cool. [00:24:16][6.8]

Stuart Turley: [00:24:17] See, I can see now, not just in the U.S., I really like the fact that you and our mine are really focusing on the world that single pane of glass, though. Holy smokes. That is critical. [00:24:30][12.4]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:24:31] Mm hmm. [00:24:31][0.2]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:24:32] Yeah, it’s it’s I think having that just unified platform where everybody’s looking at the same version of the truth is it’s critical to make the best decisions, because a lot of times what happens is you’ll have data get updated in one system, it doesn’t question the other system. So it’s just overall, it’s a crazy process. [00:24:51][18.9]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:24:51] I lived and breathed that process of Deep Cove energy. If I needed something new, I have to go ask somebody to get it done and Saturday night at 8:00 and then they would have to send it to me. I have to put it in my model. I have to take and tie it out. [00:25:04][13.2]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:25:05] So I have a very large vision to from a from a long run perspective where we want to be and it’s pretty exciting. It’s not just the U.S., There’s South America, there’s Canada, there’s Asia, there’s Middle East and Africa. So there’s a lot of opportunity for growth in a bunch of different areas for us. And we’re going to look at those opportunities and and really take advantage of them. [00:25:27][21.8]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:25:27] Because I think we’ve got a fantastic team and just just be having that one single platform that’s built out a lot of companies make acquisitions and try to bolt on those companies, but the integrations don’t work properly they don’t communicate well together a lot of them are desktop based solutions. So just organically building has been tremendously successful for us. [00:25:49][22.3]

Stuart Turley: [00:25:50] Okay. You know, it is such a joy to visit with you. And when you sit back and take a look, I just noticed that Arman went to Australia to visit his sister on LinkedIn. [00:26:04][13.1]

Stuart Turley: [00:26:05] You guys deserve a vacation. I mean, after going through what you’ve built, what you’ve done built a great team, when are you going to Australia to visit his sister? [00:26:16][11.0]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:26:19] I definitely going to be taking a little vacation at some time in the very near future with four children. I don’t know how much travel I can get to, but definitely need to go out and take a week or two off and get out of the house and get the multiple nannies in to take care of the household for a while to get away. [00:26:36][17.9]

Stuart Turley: [00:26:37] Oh, that’s fine. I don’t know what I put on our minds. LinkedIn was Congratulations on your vacation, but the true testament of the Good Company is coming back to a company after a vacation. [00:26:48][10.9]

Stuart Turley: [00:26:49] So it means you got good people running it. And I mean your joy in talking about them just made my day. [00:26:55][6.2]

Stuart Turley: [00:26:56] So what’s coming around the corner for you personally? You’ve got your four kids. Are there another on the way? I mean what. [00:27:03][6.4]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:27:03] They’re doing not be any more future children That’s that’s that is it That’s a good that’s a great number for for me now more is more of the same get in it just really get in and out and about four maybe get in a few more rounds of golf in and we’ve had some good we had a good Scotch event for for some of our clients and and folks that we know in the industry. [00:27:29][25.9]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:27:30] So doing a few more events here and they’re getting out at about four for those things and a lot of a lot of conferences and things to prosecute I am excited about. [00:27:41][11.7]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:27:42] I don’t know if you’re going to the World Oil Poker tournament in Vegas. [00:27:45][3.2]

Stuart Turley: [00:27:46] I would love to. Where does that it? Vegas. [00:27:47][1.4]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:27:48] It’s in Vegas. Yeah. So that’s that’s something that we’re going to be sponsoring. It’s a lot of I haven’t been before, but this would be my first year. This I think. [00:27:58][9.2]

Stuart Turley: [00:27:58] I needed that. [00:27:59][0.9]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:28:00] Yeah. You see, it’s the back part of April. I think it’s April 26. [00:28:04][3.9]

Stuart Turley: [00:28:05] Do a lot podcast there. I’m mean, hey. [00:28:08][2.5]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:28:09] I’m game, I’ll be there. [00:28:10][1.3]

Stuart Turley: [00:28:12] That sounds bad. It was. Jeremy, thank you so much for stopping by the podcast and this is going to go out on the all of the channels and they can reach you on your LinkedIn as well as combo curve dot com and what has any other ways to get a hold of you or anything like that. [00:28:30][18.3]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:28:31] Just think that’s perfect. Yeah, LinkedIn is I’m pretty active on LinkedIn and the website as always. [00:28:37][6.2]

Stuart Turley: [00:28:38] A thanks for stopping by. [00:28:39][0.6]

Jeremy Gottlieb: [00:28:40] Thanks for having me. [00:28:40][0.0]