Alright, who else is confused by the term “Texas Railroad Commission”? In Texas, we do everything big and have lots of traditions and the name of the commission is just one of those traditions. The Texas Railroad Commission has the authority and governs the energy sector in Texas impacting everything along the way.
Talking with politicians is not my favorite thing to do, (personally I have lost respect for all politicians regardless of parties) and that is why I really enjoyed my podcast interview with Sarge Summers. We talked about his background, beliefs, and his desire to do what is right for the environment, all of the citizens of Texas, and the far-reaching policies of the commission.
Sarge, thanks for stopping by the ENB podcast and you are always welcome to give us updates! Enjoy the discussion on the ENB podcast.
Check out Sarges’ YouTube Video on his Run for the Commision.
Please contact Sarge Summers at his email: SargeSummersTRRC@gmail.com
Also, follow Sarge on his LinkedIn Profile Here
Video Transcription edited for grammar. We disavow any errors unless they make us look better or smarter.
Stuart Turley: [00:00:04] Hey, everybody. Welcome to today’s podcast. My name’s Stuart Hurley, President and CEO of the Sandstone Group and I’ll tell you what, I’m here and we are going to have just a lot of fun today. [00:00:15][11.7]
Stuart Turley: [00:00:16] We have Sergeant Summers, and we’re going to team this up a little bit. Sarge is running for the Railroad Commission position coming up. And I got kind of tickled he looked at my LinkedIn profile. [00:00:32][16.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:00:33] I got interview him. So, Sarge, first, thank you for your service. We love your service and we’re looking forward to hear about what you got going on. [00:00:43][9.8]
Sarge Summers: [00:00:44] Welcome. Thank you, Stu. I really appreciate that. It’s an honor to be on your program and hopefully I can shed some light both on my background, my career, and then also on the Railroad Commission of Texas. [00:00:57][13.3]
Stuart Turley: [00:00:58] Oh, that’s fabulous. Keep us going. Let’s see what’s going on. Where did you come from? I mean, I was kind of teasing with you before the show here, and it was like, is it Sarge, your first name or that’s because you were a sarge. [00:01:10][12.2]
Sarge Summers: [00:01:12] Well, I’ll tell you, Stu, I go around the country I have for the last 69 years telling people that I got the name Sarge because my parents had 14 children and ran out of names. [00:01:21][9.8]
Sarge Summers: [00:01:22] But they did have they did have 14 children. And that’s that’s that’s the definition of insanity. Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. [00:01:33][11.2]
Stuart Turley: [00:01:35] Well, I’ve got a few jokes and I’ll just leave them alone there. So. And that is so cool. Where did you grow up? Where did you grow up in? [00:01:43][8.7]
Sarge Summers: [00:01:44] You know, sir, I grew up in Oklahoma and up New Mexico. [00:01:47][3.1]
Stuart Turley: [00:01:48] And what part of Oklahoma? [00:01:49][1.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:01:51] You know, I was born in Mc Allister and I grew up in a small town called Wewoka. [00:01:54][3.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:01:55] That was no way. [00:01:56][0.7]
Sarge Summers: [00:01:56] Miles southeast of Oklahoma City. Yep. [00:01:58][1.8]
Stuart Turley: [00:01:59] Yeah, you bet. I got a small shack over here and, lake ten killer and I graduated from a small school called Oklahoma State University. So I’m a Oklahoma kind of guy. [00:02:12][13.6]
Sarge Summers: [00:02:13] Not not a small school. And they beat up on my Sooners this year, so. [00:02:17][3.5]
Stuart Turley: [00:02:19] Yeah, but we lost. We lost by that match on the next game. So. [00:02:25][5.6]
Sarge Summers: [00:02:25] Yeah,. [00:02:25][0.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:02:26] But I always room for you except when they play OSU. So I’m sorry about. [00:02:30][4.3]
Sarge Summers: [00:02:30] That, understandably. And I’ve got the same thing on the flip side. [00:02:33][3.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:02:34] So. Okay. So tell us about your background in oil and gas and what let’s start with what your background. A You were 20 plus years as a sarge. [00:02:45][10.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:02:46] And by the way, if anybody doesn’t know, Sergeant, run the military. If you don’t got good sergeants, you got a problem.Officers, forget it. They they say, Sarge, take that hill. Right? [00:03:02][16.6]
Sarge Summers: [00:03:03] Right. That’s exactly right. I joined the Army on my 18th birthday as I mentioned, I’m one of 14 children and I wanted to get out of the house and get on with my life and my career as quickly as possible. [00:03:14][11.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:03:15] My dad and all six of my brothers were electricians. I’m the only one that when a different direction, I wanted to be a soldier and I got to live that dream. I didn’t know what that dream consisted of, but over time I found out I made Sergeant the 17 months, which was really pretty remarkable. [00:03:30][14.9]
Sarge Summers: [00:03:30] I was the youngest Sergeant ee five in all of Europe we had 400,000 troops at that time this would have been 1971. And then of course. So then I continued to work on my training and my education and getting promotions. [00:03:43][13.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:03:44] Retired at 21 years. I was still in during the first Gulf War, I served in four different combat units, two field artillery battalions, armored Cav, which was tanks, and then the seventh Infantry Division, which was light infantry, had a great time in the military. [00:04:00][15.4]
Sarge Summers: [00:04:00] My family made a ton of sacrifices for you and I and so many others. And but it was a great career and served three complete tours in the Cold War over in Europe. And I’m a Vietnam era veteran. [00:04:13][12.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:04:15] I’ll tell you what. I would be passed out just from even saying all that. Well done. Thank you again for your service. [00:04:23][8.1]
Sarge Summers: [00:04:24] Thank you, sir. [00:04:24][0.3]
Stuart Turley: [00:04:25] You’ve got some real tenacious there. So when you got back from service and you finally said, Hey, I’m done with the military. Where did you go from there? [00:04:34][9.2]
Sarge Summers: [00:04:35] Well, what happened there was a company that came to California and interviewed me. And then after the initial interview, they flew my wife and I, who I lost a year ago to Covid, sadly we were married 49 years,. [00:04:48][13.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:04:49] But they flew us from California, Monterey, California they flew us out to Tulsa we spent a week there. They looked at us we looked at them, went on some job walks and got into the aboveground storage tank industry and so that was my initial entree of that started a very successful career, a 30 year career in oil and gas and I retired 12 weeks ago in order to run for this position. [00:05:14][25.5]
Stuart Turley: [00:05:15] Well, when that first our prayers for you and your wife, congratulations on a very wonderful long time and again, thank you. Sorry for your loss. [00:05:27][11.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:05:31] But, you know, you say you retired to run yourself ragged. [00:05:34][3.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:05:35] Yes, sir, I did. Yeah. You know, the first thing you need to do when you decide to run for office, especially a statewide office and having never run for office before,. [00:05:43][8.3]
Sarge Summers: [00:05:44] The first thing you got to do is go down and get a frontal lobotomy, and then about a minute later, you go back and get a full lobotomy. Yeah, and true story.. [00:05:52][8.2]
Sarge Summers: [00:05:54] True story. But let me let me tell you something, if you don’t mind. People ask me all the time, Why did you not run for something earlier in your life? And I always ask them why you got to bring up 80s right?, but it’s only a number. [00:06:06][12.5]
Sarge Summers: [00:06:07] But out of love and respect for Sandy, my first wife, she did not want me in politics and so I never ran but the situation is different now, and I feel an obligation, a moral obligation to take my training, my experience, my education and run for this office. And I think you already know we have five running on the Republican side,. [00:06:32][25.2]
Stuart Turley: [00:06:33] Right. [00:06:33][0.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:06:33] I think we’re I think we’re heading to a runoff election. [00:06:36][2.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:06:36] Wow. Now, what said A. Your military, which I highly love and I’d hug you except for, you know, we’re sitting here on a Zoom call. But, you know, I love your military. I love your go get it, honest. [00:06:51][14.7]
Stuart Turley: [00:06:52] But tell us what is fundamental. I know that your heart you love I mean, you love Oklahoma. That’s lousy school that you like, but that’s okay. You love them. You love America. [00:07:05][13.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:07:05] But tell me what your beliefs are for the Railroad Commission and tell us why the Railroad Commission is a national. It’s really for Texas. But there’s a lot of stuff that impacts national. [00:07:16][11.3]
Sarge Summers: [00:07:18] It does. It actually impacts international as well. There are a lot of countries that have taken on the ideas and the concepts that the Railroad Commission has instituted since 1891. [00:07:29][11.4]
Sarge Summers: [00:07:31] And so it’s a it’s a very an influential position, you know, the three commissioners, but it’s also it’s also a lot of work. It is a ton of work, and it covers so many different things, you know as well as I do,. [00:07:44][13.7]
Sarge Summers: [00:07:44] It covers oil and gas, but it also includes pipeline safety, gas, utilities, just so surface mining, so many different things that it covers and obviously it’s misnamed. It was named correctly at one time, but since 2005, the railroad piece has been given, I think, over to the Department of Transportation, if I remember correctly. [00:08:06][21.3]
Sarge Summers: [00:08:06] And so really we need to rename the organization and when I get there, we’re going to make that happen. And the answer I’m sorry to answer your question, I just have a love for this industry. [00:08:16][9.3]
Sarge Summers: [00:08:16] This industry has been good to me. I want to serve. I’ve got 20, 29 billion plus reasons that I want to serve in this position. And every one of those 29 plus are the citizens of the great state of Texas. [00:08:29][12.6]
Stuart Turley: [00:08:30] I got a chill. That’s pretty darn cool! I now live in half the time up here in Oklahoma and my place in Texas, so I got, like, a Texas driver’s license and a Texas tags on my car. So I consider myself Texan. Okey dokey, Texican.. [00:08:49][18.6]
Sarge Summers: [00:08:50] There you go. There you go. Let me tell you something. I tell people all the time, I said I’m an Okie by birth. I’m a Texan by choice, and I’m a child of God, by the grace of God. [00:09:00][9.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:09:00] Well, bless you. I’ll tell you what. I like that. You got it right. Okay. So if I’m your competitors and I’m sitting there going, Hey, I’m glad to see that there’s five Republicans running on this thing. [00:09:17][16.3]
Stuart Turley: [00:09:18] What do you think? And we know that the Railroad Commission is so important. What makes you different than the other Republicans? [00:09:26][7.4]
Sarge Summers: [00:09:27] You know, I think I think more than anything, it’s my background and my experience. I have more experience than all of the all of the candidates and all of the current commissioners combined that 30 years. [00:09:40][12.7]
Sarge Summers: [00:09:40] We have some that are currently serving on the commission and they’re doing a good job. But they didn’t bring any oil and gas experience with them and I don’t mean to disrespect anyone that’s that’s not my game. It’s not what I do. [00:09:53][12.5]
Stuart Turley: [00:09:54] Good. [00:09:54][0.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:09:54] But at the same time, if you stack my 30 years of experience, both on the operations side and the business development side, I have more than all of them combined. You know, my educational background, all the things that I did in the military as far as training and leadership, all all of that combined and not only that, but it’s it’s the innate desire for me to serve in this position and serve the citizens of the great state of Texas. [00:10:21][27.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:10:22] I want to be that guy that day one rolls up his sleeves and goes to work and continues to go to work every day thereafter for six years. Because first of all, it’s important. It’s important to know that that that the environmental issues, all of the different things that that we deal with, it is so vitally important not just to the state of Texas, but to the entire nation. [00:10:44][22.2]
Sarge Summers: [00:10:45] And there’s a lot of there’s a lot of moving parts. There are a lot of things that are happening right now and it’s hard to get you to get your arms around it. It’s hard to get your mind around it. [00:10:53][8.5]
Sarge Summers: [00:10:54] But I believe I’m the right guy for the job and I’m going to do everything I can to get myself elected. And I’ll tell you what, campaigns doing really well. [00:11:02][8.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:11:02] Then tell me about it. What’s going on? And you say you just got out of a debate or what did you get out of? [00:11:08][5.9]
Sarge Summers: [00:11:09] Well, I was at a forum last night in Lubbock. I’ve been going to forums and debates all over the state. I faced off with the incumbent about ten days back. It was very civil neither one of us took any shots at each other, and I’m glad for that, that’s just not my style all. [00:11:27][18.5]
Sarge Summers: [00:11:28] But I just came from a political action committee meeting and I’m part of that political action committee it’s called for. Can I say what the name is? [00:11:36][7.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:11:36] Oh, absolutely. [00:11:37][0.2]
Sarge Summers: [00:11:38] Okay. It’s the number four West Texas Political Action Committee and they, I just walked away from that meeting with the endorsement. [00:11:45][7.5]
Stuart Turley: [00:11:47] Oh, congratulations. [00:11:47][0.4]
Sarge Summers: [00:11:49] Thank you. [00:11:49][0.3]
Stuart Turley: [00:11:50] That is very, very nice. [00:11:51][1.2]
Sarge Summers: [00:11:52] Thank you. [00:11:52][0.3]
Stuart Turley: [00:11:53] You know, when you sit back and take a look at your competitors, your love of country, your love of God, your love of Texas, and your desire to do well, I can’t see anything holding you back. [00:12:09][16.5]
Stuart Turley: [00:12:10] I mean, and I can just say that with all. I’ve only met you just for a few minutes, and I’m like, Can I be your, like, assistant and carry your bag? [00:12:18][8.6]
Sarge Summers: [00:12:20] I would love to. I would. I would think that we’re friends already, and I’m honored to be your friend and to be your associate in the industry. [00:12:28][7.7]
Stuart Turley: [00:12:29] So I’ll tell you what, when you get elected, what are some of your first things you’re going to change the name, right? [00:12:35][6.3]
Sarge Summers: [00:12:36] I have absolutely changed the name. It’s it’s long overdue. It’s going to cost some money. But let me tell you something. We spend money on everything else and it’s time, it’s time that we made it easier on people to understand what the Railroad Commission does. [00:12:50][14.1]
Sarge Summers: [00:12:50] And when you say we’re part of the we are the we are the regulatory agency for oil and gas, they’re saying, wait a minute, what? I don’t understand. I thought you said we were the railroad and so it’s very confusing. It’s about using as a termite and a wooden yoyo. [00:13:05][14.5]
Sarge Summers: [00:13:05] And we need to get away from that. I know I missed you up there, but away from that, you know, they change the name of everything else as time goes along and we’ve been around since 1891. It’s it’s time. [00:13:17][12.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:13:18] It is. You know, we innovate, but $88 a barrel today. $88 a barrel and I’m sitting here kind of going and we were $3 higher than Brant. Go figure that out. So. So are. [00:13:32][14.4]
Sarge Summers: [00:13:32] You. Are you talking about WTI or what? Are you talking. [00:13:34][1.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:13:35] Yeah, WTI was 88. [00:13:36][1.3]
Sarge Summers: [00:13:37] Awesome. That’s awesome. [00:13:38][0.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:13:39] We got to get some more oil and natural, you know, with COP26, the the Green Movement, it started with the Biden administration, and they put in there that natural gas and nuclear were available for renewable funding. [00:13:53][14.3]
Stuart Turley: [00:13:55] Well, that means all sudden natural gas is considered a renewable, which is great for Texas so that we could, you know. Hey, By the way, let’s go get all the gas we can because, by the way, Europe needs it because Germany is being a little stupid and bowing down to Germany, I mean, to Russia. [00:14:11][16.3]
Sarge Summers: [00:14:11] To Russia. Right. [00:14:12][0.6]
Stuart Turley: [00:14:13] But what and I want to ask you your opinion there’s no pipelines that are bad back in the back east. You know, they don’t like pipelines, you know and it’s it’s like I think they’ve got $15 gas or $10 gas they’re buying it from Russia. Go figure that from up in upstate New York. [00:14:30][16.5]
Stuart Turley: [00:14:31] You know, why would you want to buy from Putin when you can buy from Texas? [00:14:33][2.6]
Sarge Summers: [00:14:36] We’re even though we’re trading at $6, I think as of this morning. I believe that’s right. [00:14:40][4.7]
Stuart Turley: [00:14:41] Yeah. And so you said they’re going to go, man, Why not? And so what can you think of do or. Boy, there’s a no issue way to talk. [00:14:51][10.2]
Stuart Turley: [00:14:52] What can you think anyway? So what are some of your thoughts on pipelines and getting some extra take away from the Permian or anything else that you would want to do? What could you do to help that? [00:15:04][11.8]
Sarge Summers: [00:15:05] I think that’s a wonderful question, a very educated question. We you know, one of the first things that Mr. Biden did was to stop the Keystone pipeline, and that’s the second time that I’m aware of that they’ve stopped it because under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton was secretary of state. And that that runs under the secretary of state and she killed it, they killed it during during his time. [00:15:34][29.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:15:35] And then, you know, now Biden, I mean, Trump Trump put it back on line as soon as he came into office, day one or day two, signed it back in. And so they worked on it for those four years and now it’s dead again. [00:15:48][12.8]
Sarge Summers: [00:15:48] It’s going to end up taking, you know, 30 years to get this this thing on line and of course, that those products would be coming down from Canada through Nebraska, down to down to Cushing, Oklahoma, and then eventually down to Netherland, just outside of Houston, Beaumont area. [00:16:06][17.3]
Sarge Summers: [00:16:06] And so, you know, we’ve got to continue to build these pipelines. But listen, you don’t do these overnight. It doesn’t happen overnight. There’s a lot of planning. There’s a lot of organizing. There’s there’s permitting that has to be done on all of these different things. But we have seen a lot of a lot more pipelines in recent years. [00:16:24][18.1]
Sarge Summers: [00:16:25] I know that I won’t I won’t name the names of the companies, but I know the ones that I was involved with. And so we’ve got some great new pipelines, many of those coming out of the Permian Basin going down into South Texas, splitting off, going down into Corpus, and then going over to one of the refineries there down in the south of Houston. [00:16:46][20.4]
Sarge Summers: [00:16:46] And just a lot of good stuff. But listen, pipeline is still the safest way to transmit oil and gas over any other thing that we can do over trucking. And by the way, we got all kinds of issues with trucking right now, too. [00:17:01][14.7]
Stuart Turley: [00:17:02] Oh, yeah. [00:17:02][0.3]
Sarge Summers: [00:17:03] Really hurting our supply chain in so many different ways. All we got to do is go to the grocery store to take note of that. And I’ll tell you something else you didn’t ask me this question, but I’m I’m going to address this. [00:17:13][9.9]
Sarge Summers: [00:17:13] We’re having issues with a lot of the seismic activities out here in the Permian Basin and it’s you know, it’s what Oklahoma has experienced over the years. There was a big shake up in 2014, and Oklahoma have an effect on production there and we’re facing the same thing. [00:17:30][16.9]
Sarge Summers: [00:17:31] The Railroad Commission has made some decisions and invoked some policies concerning the saltwater disposal.And so now what’s happening as a result of that is they’re warning they’re warning us, they’re warning the producers to take the water well, miles and miles and miles away from the Permian Basin and in some cases, two or three states over. [00:17:55][23.6]
Sarge Summers: [00:17:55] And I’m going to tell you something, what it’s going to do in the very near term, I hate to say this because it’s going to hurt a lot of people. It’s going to hurt all of us. But we’re going to say $6 gas and at the pump, the future at the pump. And that’s listen, that’s pay. That’s yep, that’s where we all pay. It’s at the pump. [00:18:13][17.7]
Sarge Summers: [00:18:13] And that’s that’s when we begin to realize, wait a minute, what is my government doing to me? What is my government doing to me? and all this is self-inflicted, and it’s a lot of it’s just a knee jerk reaction. We need to stop and think there’s some planning and then execute the plan. [00:18:29][15.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:18:31] Well, you know, what’s sad about the $6 at the pump is it gets the poor people, it gets the middle class,. [00:18:37][5.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:18:38] And it’s it’s a way to the rich get richer and the poor get poorer when when these kind of the energy policies affect the poor or harder. So thank you for bringing that up. [00:18:51][13.5]
Sarge Summers: [00:18:52] Yes Sir. So it’s like, do I buy that loaf of bread or do I buy that gallon of gas? You know, whether you’re going to buy it, you’re going to buy the loaf of bread because the most the two most important things are being able to eat and having water is, number one, you’ve got to have water. [00:19:05][12.6]
Stuart Turley: [00:19:06] Right. [00:19:06][0.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:19:06] To live. So that’s very, very important. And and I’ll tell you what, we’re talking about some important stuff today, aren’t we? [00:19:13][6.7]
Stuart Turley: [00:19:14] Oh, absolutely. And, you know, texi cans and I love the oilfield. I was on a rig yesterday and I just had a blast with our rig out there and everything. It was so much fun. [00:19:24][10.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:19:26] And when you when you’re working with these guys and you know, now that natural gas and oil is so critical, but when you sit back and think the oil fuel folks stop flaring as much as they could, you know, years ago they didn’t bother. [00:19:41][14.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:19:41] But now they have been trying to take the take away out of the Permian coming back better. There, you know, it is doing better and getting that out , their not flaring nearly as much and they’re taking care of ESG on their own. But what do you think about there still needs some help being required in ESG? Correct. [00:20:03][21.1]
Sarge Summers: [00:20:04] There will continually be need to try to improve things there. It’s relatively new when you think about it. ESG, ahm but the environmental issues, the safety, the governance. I mean, it’s all so very important,. [00:20:18][13.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:20:18] Right? [00:20:18][0.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:20:20] You know, we’ve got this flaring thing. I don’t know. I can’t recall the period of time, but it wasn’t a very long period of time. [00:20:26][6.4]
Sarge Summers: [00:20:27] There was $14.2 billion worth of flaring that’s like just just throwing money against the winter burn away. And we need to, one of the things that we need to do is we need to make sure that we capture those vapors rather than burning or flaring those off. [00:20:44][16.9]
Sarge Summers: [00:20:45] Now we have what we have what they call vapor recovery units, VRUs need to be that needs to be mandated. That needs to be mandated we need to recover that, we recover off the flaring devices, we recover off of type tankage. [00:20:59][13.8]
Sarge Summers: [00:20:59] And we need to put we need to capture that, put it back in the system, sell it. And and you know what? Once we’ve sold it nice, we need to find a way to reduce the taxes from the citizens of this state. [00:21:10][10.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:21:11] Oh, absolutely wonderful, [00:21:11][0.4]
Sarge Summers: [00:21:12] That’s a that’s a novel idea, giving some money back to the people that earned it. [00:21:17][5.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:21:18] You know, that is the first regulation, I think, charge that I would actually go. That makes sense. [00:21:22][5.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:21:23] Yeah. [00:21:23][0.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:21:24] Because capturing that in, because renewables you can’t get to net zero. We got to go to carbon net zero. But how we get there, it is going to be painful If we get rid of oil and gas. [00:21:38][13.3]
Sarge Summers: [00:21:39] You can’t get rid of oil and gas. You cannot, This car that I’m sitting in right now, I look around this car and I see all of the things that were made, made of petroleum, not the glasses that you and I wear every day. [00:21:51][12.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:21:51] I mean, you look around and people do there’s tree huggers, I guess I can say that, but I’m not a tree hugger, okay? I care about this country and I want us to be environmentally safe. But I don’t. I don’t get carried away with it. [00:22:04][13.4]
Sarge Summers: [00:22:05] But if they if they just stop for a minute and think about that airplane that we that we get on and we put on the mask and we do all the things that we’re required to do, you know, all of that. Most of that is made from petroleum products, and you take away, I mean, even cosmetics for the ladies. Can you imagine our ladies giving up their cosmetics? Never know that. [00:22:26][20.9]
Stuart Turley: [00:22:26] I can’t charge I can’t touch this because I have to wait. I have to make sure that my wife does not ever watch this one, if I may. We’ve been married 35 years, and only one of those was a good year. So, you know, when you’re just getting up at night. Yeah. Now she’s a saint for putting up with my stupid carcass. [00:22:45][19.5]
Stuart Turley: [00:22:46] But I’ll tell you, you know, you sit back and kind of go, I am so grateful that she reached out and that I’ve got to know you. Let’s tell our listeners how they can help you. What is your website? How they can get a hold of you. And what do you need and support to help your campaign. [00:23:04][17.5]
Sarge Summers: [00:23:05] So I appreciate you asking that. Stu, That’s very kind of you. Our website is under Reconstruction, so I’m not going to put that information out on the Facebook page for the campaign is Marvin SargeSummers.com. [00:23:18][13.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:23:21] Okay. [00:23:21][0.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:23:22] And I’m running a lot of my campaign on LinkedIn. I’ve got 27,000 plus connections. About 96% are oil and gas. I’ve tried to stay in my lane, but I want to reach every citizen in the state of Texas. [00:23:35][13.4]
Sarge Summers: [00:23:36] And then I’ve got 5000 connections on on Facebook. But in terms of helping our campaign, there are three things that I would ask everyone to do. And this may strike you as a little odd. [00:23:47][11.5]
Sarge Summers: [00:23:48] I want them to pray. Oh, I want to pray and I want them to pray some more. And most of our campaign is being self-financed. You know, we’re in a position to do that. [00:24:01][13.3]
Sarge Summers: [00:24:03] If someone wants to make a donation to our campaign, then they just need to reach out because they’re going to have to cut a check and mail it and that money will go straight into the campaign account. [00:24:14][10.6]
Sarge Summers: [00:24:15] But we’re not we’re not getting wrapped around the axle or pole vaulting over mouse turds when it comes to comes to the donations. We feel like we’re doing extremely well and I’ll tell you, I feel My faith is stronger today than it’s ever been and, you know, we went through the most horrific thing, the hardest walk that my family and I’ve ever walked. [00:24:38][23.7]
Sarge Summers: [00:24:39] Sandy was in the hospital for 47 days. Channel two News in Houston did two segments on our family. Channel 13 did three segments. It went. It went viral all around the world and we’ve heard back from people and most of them start out by saying, you know, I’ve never met you and most likely I’ll never meet you in person. But I want you to know that we’re praying for you and your family. [00:25:01][22.0]
Sarge Summers: [00:25:01] And so I put a very high premium on on on prayers. I put a high premium on my faith. When people ask me, Sarge, what’s important to you, I always tell them this. It’s my it’s my faith. It’s my family and it’s my friends and if I added one more, it would be freedom. And that’s what’s important to me. [00:25:20][18.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:25:21] Wow. You know, first Thessalonians five Pray without Ceasing and it sounds like you’ve been doing that. [00:25:27][6.4]
Sarge Summers: [00:25:28] Yes. So. [00:25:28][0.2]
Stuart Turley: [00:25:29] Man, I just can’t begin to tell you how much. I just really appreciate this conversation and getting to know you. [00:25:35][5.4]
Stuart Turley: [00:25:35] And so with that, I’m going to go ahead and say goodbye to all of our listeners, all of Sergeant information and it’s Marvin Sarge Summers that will be in the show notes in every way to get a hold of him. So thank you very much. Sarge for stopping by. Oh, yes. [00:25:53][18.0]
Stuart Turley: [00:25:54] Yeah, I do have an email address I forgot to give you. Okay, It’s Sarge Summers. That’s summerstrrc.com. [00:26:00][6.1]
Stuart Turley: [00:26:05] Okay. That sounds great. That’ll be in the show notes as well, too. And so bless you and keep on driving. We’ll keep you we’ll keep everybody posted. [00:26:14][8.5]
Stuart Turley: [00:26:15] Thank you, sir. God bless. [00:26:16][0.8]
Stuart Turley: [00:26:16] God bless. [00:26:16][0.0]
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